Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2022 Quezon City fire


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The result was delete. Policy-based consensus is there's no lasting impact of this fire. Should there be a change, or a development of legislation, I am happy to provide this in draft space but at the moment there are no grounds for an article. Star  Mississippi  02:23, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

2022 Quezon City fire

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As per WP:NOTNEWS and WP:LASTING, there is nothing to indicate that fire that happened in the residential area, U.P. Campus, Quezon City was historic (e.g. record deaths or property damage).

While coverage includes BBC News and a Hong Kong site, all falls under WP:ROUTINE. Hariboneagle927 (talk) 04:58, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Events and Philippines. Hariboneagle927 (talk) 04:58, 3 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Keep because it's important enough & is reliably sourced, including mainstream media articles from multiple countries. Causing a record number of deaths or record amount of property damage isn't required for disasters to be notable. The vast majority of fires & other disasters which we have articles about weren't that severe. This isn't a routine or run-of-the-mill event - it was a large fire which destroyed many houses & killed 8 people. Having started (according to the BBC) within the campus of a university increases its notability. Jim Michael 2 (talk) 06:33, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. — hueman1 ( talk •  contributions ) 10:08, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Not a major notable fire incident similar to Star City, a mall in Davao City and the Kentex factory. This is just a normal and ordinary fire incident that frequently seen everytime in all news media outlets, fails WP:NOTNEWS. CruzRamiss2002 (talk) 11:33, 3 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Keep Eight people were killed. According to SunStar:
 * Around 250 families were affected by the fire, which was declared out at around 7 a.m.
 * According to AFP via The Manila Times at least sixty homes were destroyed. The Independent says 80.
 * These are somewhat notable numbers. Dunutubble (talk) (Contributions) 13:08, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Not all !votes are policy backed, but amongst those that are, there's sufficient to warrant from another week's discussion - especially as to whether it is ROUTINE and LASTING coverage (or not) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Nosebagbear (talk) 08:57, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep I agree with User:Dunutubble that those numbers are notable, and there is already some coverage of it. This doesn't fall under WP:ROUTINE in my mind, with something that affected 250 families - it's not a wedding announcement or a sports score or a "dog bites man" type deal. Given that this fire only occurred two days ago (by local time), I think we may be jumping the gun a bit by deleting it since more coverage is likely to arise (including some that has already been brought up in this AfD discussion) with which we can expand the content of it. Sleddog116 (talk) 16:23, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep because it was a major fire that swept through a village's worth of houses leaving 250 families heavily affected by this and leaving 8 people dead 6 of which were children plus it can stand out in a way for where why and how the fire started. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dubstar44 (talk • contribs) 20:21, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment This is just a run of the mill fire. The latest news is just about the identification of 7 of the 8 victims. (Philippine Star as of May 4). No WP:LASTING effect such as the city mayor's position being challenged such as the case of the Kentex slipper factory fire or virtual destruction of one of two of the country's major amusement park such as in the case of the Star City fire. The fire just happen to occur inside a village that shares the same name as the country's university (yes technically said university is largely in the same village/barangay) thus it was picked up by international media (eg. BBC News).Hariboneagle927 (talk) 23:34, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
 * How can a fire which destroyed dozens of houses & made hundreds of people homeless be run-of-the-mill? Had it happened in the developed world, our article would be several times longer & would have been edited by several times more people. Jim Michael 2 (talk) 06:56, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Because it is not from the developed world. I lived, studied and worked there and this is sadly a normal occurrence especially during the dry season. Here's another fire from the same area with almost the same number of families displaced and in the end it was just run of the mill politician promises afterwards. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 14:43, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm talking about the coverage being run-of-the-mill you usually hear in the local evening news. As for the second point I afraid WP:SYSTEMICBIAS plays. But even so, if the local Filipino media would have provided a more comprehensive info on what happened to the fire which would have provided material to build this article. I really attempted to add more information about the fire but I can't really find further info from reliable sources aside from "we have now identified on who died." Virtually all news article says "a fire has happened and people died". No information of its implications to even local community or the related universityHariboneagle927 (talk) 14:46, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
 * If this was not run-of-the-mill fire, there could have been easily longer... with COVID and ABS-CBN shutdown in mind, which meant getting references got a bit harder. Two examples of notable fires were the aformentioned Kentex slipper factory fire and the Ozone Disco fire. Generally, fires in residential areas are run-of-the-mill. There were bigger fires in Cavite City, two of them in February, one affecting 700 families and four villages. Those two were still run-of-the-mill. If East Coast bias was real, then Imperial Manila bias can give a run for its money. Howard the Duck (talk) 20:24, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete per WP:LASTING. After two weeks there are no additional news articles that details any progress about what to do with the effects of the fire moving forward. I appreciate the votes that are concerned about the loss of life and property but thing is, this is routine. It happened before and it will happen again and nothing will be done about it. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:26, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete as WP:NOTNEWS. SBKSPP (talk) 03:55, 14 May 2022 (UTC)


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