Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2023 St. George Illawarra Dragons season


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Guerillero Parlez Moi 11:46, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

2023 St. George Illawarra Dragons season

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Contested redirect. Zero in-depth sources from independent, reliable refs. Currently fails WP:GNG.  Onel 5969  TT me 13:23, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Rugby league and Australia.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 13:48, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
 * This discussion has been noted at Talk:2023 NRL season. —C.Fred (talk) 15:49, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep. The lack of sources currently cited at the article does not correlate to a lack of sources about the subject.Furthermore—and I know, WP:OTHERSTUFF—but this would open the AfD floodgates to any number of team season articles that are useful for splitting data out of the league's season articles. I don't think we want to send AfD down that path. —C.Fred (talk) 15:52, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete everything This user wants to delete many, many articles, just let them do it. I stopped contributing years ago because of this type of thing, why bother fighting it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Local Potentate (talk • contribs) 21:56, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment: Onel these are rugby league season articles, what else do you want to see in them? A list of every play by teams in every match? Just put up a template that says "need more sources" is ok, but don't try to delete every existing page, rugby league may not matter to you, but it matters to us Aussies.
 * Oppose: WP:NSEASONS qualifies this and almost every other NRL team season article nominated or draftified by this editor. Yes some teams have more active editors than others to ensure full WP:GNG compliance, but I fail to see the point of the back-and-forward nature of what's happening to a few different articles in the rugby league space. Storm machine (talk) 00:53, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment: looking around and I see a number of rugby league related articles that have suffered from a cycle of creation, redirection, recreation (often multiple times), further redirects, draftifying, and other moves, followed by an AfD process. Surely judicious use of the primary sources tag and starting relevant discussions on article talk pages, or even visiting the WikiProject Rugby league talk page to enlist editors to expand on articles, would be a better use of time. Storm machine (talk) 03:32, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment - WP:NSEASONS does not preclude WP:GNG, indeed, the first sentence of the SNG is "Individual season articles for top-level professional teams are highly likely to meet Wikipedia notability requirements." (emphasis added).  Not that they automatically qualify.  GNG still must be shown. Onel 5969  TT me 01:19, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * A quick ProQuest search indicates 1,017 search results for the search term "St George Illawarra Dragons" from 1 November 2022 (the nominal start of the NRL calendar year) through today. Is that enough presumed and significant coverage? Storm machine (talk) 01:58, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep. Agree that WP:NSEASONS allows possibility of page existing. As per C.Fred, lack of cited sources is not a reason to remove page. Sources exist, they just need to be cited. Spinifex&#38;Sand (talk) 03:43, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:NSEASONS> Sources are abundant, they just haven't been added. Doctorhawkes (talk) 00:04, 7 April 2023 (UTC)


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