Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2026 FIFA World Cup bids


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Spartaz Humbug! 04:18, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

2026 FIFA World Cup bids

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Article of pure speculation, contravenes WP:CRYSTALBALL Ilikeeatingwaffles (talk) 15:47, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Sir Sputnik (talk) 15:54, 14 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete - per WP:CRYSTAL. This article is based entirely on speculation. Sir Sputnik (talk) 15:54, 14 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete - Too early for such an article as it will be based entirely on speculation. Camw (talk) 16:05, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:CRYSTAL article is pure speculation. Mo ainm  ~Talk  16:08, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge into the general article on the World Cup. Keep, article seems to be developing with sourced information, and will no doubt continue to do so (but should probably be renamed simply 2026 FIFA World Cup). --Kotniski (talk) 16:11, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete and redirect to FIFA World Cup. Per WP:CRYSTAL. — Half  Price  18:38, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete, redirect and lock Until the bidding process starts proper. Semi-plausable search term given the current stories around the preceding World Cups.  Lugnuts  (talk) 19:26, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. It's not based on editorial speculation at all.  All the material seems either sourced, or able to be sourced, to me.   I'm not a fan of the sport, but this article is clearly  a notable topic that already has source and can only have more.  --Born2cycle (talk) 22:30, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete No article should exist until either the bidding process starts or at least a country formally announces its bidding.--EchetusXe 22:47, 14 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep. While speculation has worked its way into the article regarding prospective bidders (with the exception of Colombia, which is sourced), there is enough information to know that countries from Asia and Europe may not bid under current FIFA rules.  As the bidding process draws closer and closer, more countries will consider making a bid, and the article will grow.  There is already sourced talk about it (see the section on Colombia).  It's merely a stub for now, but this article will definitely grow as time goes by.Bethereds (talk) 02:45, 15 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete But not per WP:CRYSTAL as I don't see where this article fails under that policy. Unfortunately, Wikipedia is allowed to include reports on verifiable speculation. Instead, I'd like to see this go under WP:NOT. This article is based only on "routine news reporting" - that is, interviews, press conference comments and blogs. When formal bids are announced or the nature of the bidding process is announced, this article will overcome this limitation. Given the nature of the article, redirecting to FIFA World Cup would seem appropriate. Pretty Green (talk) 09:28, 15 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete No bidding process has opened so who is to say the 2026 World Cup will even take place? This is simply crystal balling and pandering to news reports not factual knowledge. Brad78 (talk) 00:12, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
 * The first paragraph of the article is 100% factual knowledge. The second part is documentation of countries which might put forth a bid.  I can understand that some people want to remove the article because no one has yet declared an intention to bid.  This will change.  Even so, I think that we have enough knowledge to know which continents the bids may be limited to (unless there is a rule change), and various soccer officials have suggested possible bid candidates.Bethereds (talk) 02:02, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Statement from football associations leader and authority should be reliable enough to back up the speculation, but a statement from a non-national team coach and a national team coach who probably wouldn't be coaching that team in 2026 should not be included in this article. Also Australia's and United States' bids need references. The existence of this unreferenced and unreliable speculations didn't help your argument to keep the article. — MT (talk) 04:46, 20 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Merge to 2026 FIFA World Cup, until formal bids are officially announced. GiantSnowman 18:04, 16 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete - There have been no official bids for the 2026 World Cup yet. In fact, the bidding process hasn't even opened yet. This article is pointless at this stage. – PeeJay 21:43, 18 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete - Article is pure speculation. Recreate when a country actually makes a bid for the tournament. J Mo 101 (talk) 13:12, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

To all citing WP:CRYSTAL
Individual scheduled or expected future events should only be included if the event is notable and almost certain to take place. Dates are not definite until the event actually takes place. If preparation for the event is not already in progress, speculation about it must be well documented.

World cups are notable. As long as there is no Apocalypse between now and 2026, the 2026 World Cup will almost certainly take place. Speculation is pretty well documented... see the sources in the article! Bethereds (talk) 03:08, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, bids for the 2026 World Cup will almost certainly take place, but the article as it stands is just saying that certain countries are thinking about it. This a load of speculation about who might bid, made up from articles to fill sports pages rather than anything solid. Ilikeeatingwaffles (talk) 09:05, 16 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Crystal specifically allows for articles which contain well documented speculation. However, WP:NOTNEWS states that routine news reporting on things like announcements, sports, or celebrities is not a sufficient basis for inclusion in the encyclopedia. All that this article currently contains is speculation from routine news reporting. If, and when, either a. a formal intention to bid is announced or b. the bidding dates and process is announced, then article would be appropriate. At the moment, none of the examples included fit into this category - the closest is Columbia where the claim 'Colombian President Alvaro Uribe said his country would bid to host in 2026' appears to be supported by the statement "This nation ... aspires to be the future seat of the Panamerican (Games), the seat of the Youth Olympics, the seat of the world championship of football". Aspiring to bid is not the same as announcing an intention to bid. Absolutely none of this content is anything more than routine news reporting. --Pretty Green (talk) 10:13, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

If deleted
Can the information within the article be merged into the FIFA World Cup article?Bethereds (talk) 03:49, 16 December 2010 (UTC)


 * I'd be against that. There's no need for it in the article. Quite frankly all that would be needed is a comment saying "The next unallocated FIFA World Cup will be in 2026. The process for selecting a host has not yet been announced". There certainly isn't scope for adding Sam Allerdyce or Tony Wanker's musings into a featured article. --Pretty Green (talk) 10:06, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
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