Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/22ndMidsouth Emmy Awards


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The result was   keep. I'll move this to 22nd Midsouth Emmy Awards (correction of a space). King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 05:04, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

22ndMidsouth Emmy Awards

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 * Delete Unsourced and does not indicate notability. -- Jeandré, 2009-05-10t12:01z 12:01, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Is now referenced to primary source, but still doesn't indicate notability. -- Jeandré, 2009-05-11t21:09z
 * I am unsure as to how a major award does not indicate notability. The google search will take yout o the emmys themselves and they are aired on national television just as the international awards are as seen here> . So, on the issue of notability for wikipedia guidelines, if a porn stars page can be kept because it states that they have won one non notable award, then why should something as notable as an Emmy Award be discounted as non notable? Doesn't that seem a little moronic for lack of a better word? Canyouhearmenow 22:36, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Which network aired the regional Emmy Awards for Tennessee, North Carolina, and part of Alabama on national television? I found the videostream of the awards at the link you provided, but it didn't indicate who broadcast the ceremony. I would have thought the ceremony was broadcast only in the local area to which it pertained, but in any event I saw no indication of who the broadcaster was. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 03:15, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
 * The last broadcast was shown on the PBS network on January 24, 2009. The show was aired at 9:00 PM and hosted by country recording star, Hal Ketchum. I am really still at a loss here as to why we are debating notability of an Emmy Award? Regional or National, an Emmy is an Emmy! NATAS has 19 regions and divides the awards up among the regions because it cannot hold all of the awards at one time. This is also the reason we have the "Daytime" and "Primetime" Emmy's. Each chapter has it's own televised awards show and one can tune in on a PBS channel and watch whatever regional ceremony they want. The academy recognizes each chapter as being part of the international offices and the information can be found on their main web site The Midsouth also has various student awards and scholarships that are sponsored strictly by the national headquarters . This is true of many various awards such as the Grammy's, People's Choice awards, Telly Awards and so on. The stations listed as winners here are notable and most have their own page. A majority of the winners are also notable. One in particular is Christian recording star, David L Cook. No one can say that he is non notable! The bottom line of this whole matter is that this page is a SUB PAGE that stems from a host article and not the article itself. No one seems to be realizing that. Then to argue that it is indiscriminate information? I have re read that guideline and there are too many gray areas and I am not even sure that rule could apply in this instance. Canyouhearmenow 11:50, 12 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete as indiscriminate information. Just a list of winners of a regional (not national) competition. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 16:10, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep This is not an article but a subpage that was created to save space on the main page. If you will look, the subpage is directing you pack to the main page. As far as notability goes, the academy does not distinguish between regional and nationals when it comes to being an "Emmy" winner. So, for someone to use that arguement, it is not valid. I would agree with the deletion if all it was were a group of winners and no host article.Canyouhearmenow 17:45, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Notable means "worthy of being noted" or "attracting notice." It is not synonymous with "fame" or "importance." Please consider notable and demonstrable effects on culture, society, entertainment, athletics, economies, history, literature, science, or education. Large organizations are likely to have more readily available verifiable information from reliable sources that provide evidence of notability; however, smaller organizations can be notable, just as individuals can be notable, and arbitrary standards should not be used to create a bias favoring larger organizations. I believe that this would meet this criteria. Just because it is not a part of the International awards broadcast does not mean that it is non notable and worthy of its own place on wikipedia. Canyouhearmenow 17:57, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Regardless of whether the Academy itself makes such a distinction, I think that Wikipedians can judge for themselves whether a competition involving only television stations in Tennessee, North Carolina, and part of Alabama is as notable as a similar competition which is run on a national basis. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 08:01, 11 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 21:54, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep As precedent has been set for such "list" articles spliting off a parent article so as to not overburden the parent, and Wiki has room to recognize that notability is notability, no matter if its only for a few dozen million in a national region or 300 million nation-wide. In the Midsouth Emmy Awards we're not talikng about a neighborhood bake sale, but of something "worthy of being noted" or "attracting notice" for a major portion of the United States. The informations contained therein can show in-depth coverage in reliable sources per WP:CLEANUP to pass WP:N and WP:GNG. It is the height of hubris to suggest that such notability must be nation-wide in order to matter. As long as the pieces of the puzzle pass WP:N, the puzzle itself is allowed and encouraged. Tag if for expansion and sourcing and encourage pro-active participation in further improving the article. It has existed for less than a month and it improves wiki to allow it to grow per WP:POTENTIAL. After the keep, move it to the proper 22nd Midsouth Emmy Awards per naming conventions.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 18:16, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep If an award is notable, than a list of those who won it, is valid also.  D r e a m Focus  21:54, 15 May 2009 (UTC)


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