Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/23rd Monster


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The result was no consensus. Still no consensus made after the 2nd relist. (non-admin closure) ASTIG😎  (ICE T • ICE CUBE) 07:00, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

23rd Monster

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No notability for this single to warrant a standalone article. Nearlyevil665 (talk) 14:59, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 15:30, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 15:30, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Question - are at least 3 of the references separate from the subject and more than just passing mentions? versacespace  leave a message!  01:25, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment: I used Google Translate so it's not entirely accurate but all of the links smell like promotional pieces. Nearlyevil665 (talk) 14:30, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I understand that this is probably not enough to keep the article from being deleted but I would like to give some more insight. Yes, three of the sources are basically announcenemts from music news outlets (BARKS Japan Music Network, Oricon Music, news.dwango.jp) and one is an announcement made by her label (Avex.jp, which I only used for its release date). The song is not just mentioned in these articles, though, but it's also a part of each headline. Additionally, they talk about the song's music video and the lyrical content. I would say that's more than a mere mention of the song's title. I have just added another chart source by Oricon (https://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/dis/d/2021-04-08/), where the song debuted at number 2 on the daily chart. Question: If the song were to place in the weekly Oricon/Billboard chart, would that make it notable enough or does it still need other sources?I apologize for causing a possible mess. In fact, I tried my best using multiple sources, even though articles such as Darenimo Iwanai are clearly use less sources, where one is not even seen as reliable according to Wikipedia rules. That is why I thought this single warrants having its own article in the first place.  TioTayumi (talk) 15:26, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
 * If it ranks in the weekly Oricon, it can be a sign of notability, see WP:NALBUM. As this song released 2 days ago, this might be a "wait and see" situation. Jumpytoo Talk 22:05, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
 * The song has debuted at 29 on the weekly Oricon chart, as well as having reached 30th place on the weekly Billboard chart (both for digital releases, which this song is). TioTayumi (talk) 06:06, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  05:50, 16 April 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~ Aseleste  (t, e &#124; c, l) 04:06, 24 April 2021 (UTC)


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