Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/26 Nathan Road


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The result was keep. Per the late evidence of notability. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:53, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

26 Nathan Road

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Not notable office building viztor ✦ 07:12, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Architecture-related deletion discussions. viztor ✦ 07:12, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Hong Kong-related deletion discussions.  CASSIOPEIA(talk) 08:14, 23 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete. No notable commercial building. Fails WP:NBUILD. CASSIOPEIA</b>(<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>) 08:25, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - Fails WP:NBUILD. - MA Javadi (talk) 20:22, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

<ul><li>Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.<ol> <li></li> <li></li> <li></li> <li></li> </ol>

<ol> <li> The book notes: "Oterprise Square (Formerly Titus Square) The site is located at the junction of Nathan Road and Middle Road in Tsimshatsui, a traditionally busy commercial and tourist neighborhood. The site is sandwiched between a number of landmark buildings in the district: the Peninsula Hotel, the Sheraton Hotel, and the Hyatt Regency. It is relatively small in area, only about 1,000 square meters, and what used to be a panoramic view of Victoria Harbour is now largely obstructed by the Sheraton and the newly extended Peninsula Tower. The redevelopment is envisaged to be a Class-A office building with a retail podium. The challenge to the design was how to fully exploit, under the restrictions of its towering neighbors and its own relatively small area, the potential of the site in this particular 'golden' location. The strategy in the design of the podium was to introduce a passage cutting diagonally across the site linking Nathan Road and Middle Road. This means that pedestrians are tempted to use this shortcut through the retail areas, and be brought, involuntarily, through the skylit atrium above this passage, into visual contact with the various retail levels and the associated bridgelinks and escalators. As a result, there is an intentional mixing and blurring of the boundary between the private and the public domains, resulting in an architecture that is both fluid and permeable. In the design of the office tower, a conscious attempt was made to maximize the view of the harbor available at the different levels of the tower. This results in the façade being orientated towards the southwest, from the sixth floor to the thirteenth floor, through the gap between the Sheraton and the Peninsula, and towards the south from the fifteenth floor to twenty-seventh floor, once it is clear of the roof of the Sheraton, to capture the whole panorama of Hong Kong Island. The form of the building is thus predetermined by the above strategies and represents a distinct example of a 'contextual high-rise' in the dense urban fabric typical of Hong Kong." The article provides some additional information about the building:<ol><li>Location: Hong Kong SAR, People's Republic of China</li><li>Completion: 1998</li><li>Height: 108.8 m</li><li>Stories: 28 and 1 basement</li><li>Area: Total floor: 16,462 m2; site: 1,096,906 m2</li><li>Structure: Reinforced concrete</li><li>Materials: Glass and aluminum</li><li>Use: Commercial</li><li>Cost: HK$225 million</li><li>Architect: Rocco Design Ltd.</li><li>Structural engineer: Maunsell Consultants Asia Ltd.</li><li>E/M consultant: Meinhardt (M&E) Ltd</li>Client: King Tai Development Inc.</li><li>Contractor: Penta Ocean Construction Ltd</li></ol></li> <li> The book notes: "Titus Square Architectural Firm: Rocco Design Limited This is a case study of an office building with its curtain wall serving as the enclosure. A shading device is incorporated for solar control. Minor articulation in the plan form produces variation in the building facade. The site is within the busy urban fabric adjacent to Nathan Road in Tsimshatsui. As it is located in a corner site fronting two streets, a plan form of a circular quadrant is selected. This plan generates a massing with maximum view from the offices. The curtain wall for the tower incorporates two main types of panel. The first type has one-third of its height as the vision panel and the other two-thirds as the spandrel panel. The second type has a full-height vision glass incorporating a 200 mm high fan light for smoke extraction. This latter type is more open to the view but less resistant to solar heat gain. To improve this, a shading device of fluorocarbon-coated aluminium overhangs 765 mm from the external wall."</li> <li> The book notes: "The result is a place-centered modernism. Perhaps no building exemplifies this better than Oterprise Square, completed recently by Rocco Design. In the tight confines of the densest part of Kowloon, this silver office and commercial complex uniquely fits its Hong Kong location. It encourages pedestrians to shortcut the crowded corner, slicing through and revealing a world of offices and shops. At the ground level, the building is as much a passage as a structure – and what a passage! – revealing the building vertically to the pedestrian moving through it. Oterprise Square was one of the first buildings that recognized that the upper, middle and lower portions of a tower each need to respond differently to their context. The top has panoramic views that need to be captured; the middle portion exploits the narrow view angle towards the harbor as defined by adjacent buildings; and the lower levels are the domains of the pedestrian. Buildings of this sort capture the energy of their surroundings, and they are at the heart of how Hong Kong modernism differs from new architecture in most other parts of the world."</li> <li> The book notes: "Case Studies Titus Square Titus Square is an office tower located in Tsim Sha Tsui. Similar to many office buildings in Hong Kong, the lower floors (G/F to 5/F, in this case) are designed for retail use and the upper floors for office use. Here, 6/F, 7/F and 14/F are for mechanical services and are not taken into account for OTTV calculation. A curtain wall of 8mm coated glass and light grey tiles are selected as the basic external finishes for the fenestration and opaque wall respectively. The roof is reinforced concrete slab with insulation board and concrete tile. Located between Nathan Road and Middle Road, the building is shaded from direct sunlight by Far East Mansion, Sheraton Hotel and Pennisula Hotel. This poses a difficulty in applying the standard method of OTTV calculation to accurately reflect the real situation."</li>

There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow 26 Nathan Road to pass Notability, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Cunard (talk) 07:58, 28 July 2019 (UTC)</li></ul>
 * 26 Nathan Road was previously known as Titus Square and Oterprise Square. Four book sources provide significant coverage about the building. For example, The City in Architecture: Recent Works of Rocco Design from The Images Publishing Group provides substantial analysis of the building. It notes, "Oterprise Square was one of the first buildings that recognized that the upper, middle and lower portions of a tower each need to respond differently to their context. The top has panoramic views that need to be captured; the middle portion exploits the narrow view angle towards the harbor as defined by adjacent buildings; and the lower levels are the domains of the pedestrian. Buildings of this sort capture the energy of their surroundings, and they are at the heart of how Hong Kong modernism differs from new architecture in most other parts of the world." And Building Enclosure in Hong Kong from Hong Kong University Press also provides substantial analysis of the building. It notes about Titus Square, "This is a case study of an office building with its curtain wall serving as the enclosure. A shading device is incorporated for solar control. Minor articulation in the plan form produces variation in the building facade. The site is within the busy urban fabric adjacent to Nathan Road in Tsimshatsui. As it is located in a corner site fronting two streets, a plan form of a circular quadrant is selected. This plan generates a massing with maximum view from the offices." made significant improvements to the article after the AfD nomination. Cunard (talk) 07:58, 28 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep, per Cunard. The photo suffices for me, anyhow.  Anything that huge and expensive is going to be notable by wp:GNG, and should also be recognized by wwp:GEOFEAT(?). --Doncram (talk) 09:04, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep per Cunard's sources. When I initially saw the links I thought they would be routine mentions, but though it's somewhat close, I think in the end the Binder and Hope sources particularly show the independent analysis needed to rise to the level of significant coverage. MarginalCost (talk) 16:16, 30 July 2019 (UTC)


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