Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2D Love


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   redirect to Moe (slang). Redirects are cheap, though I have deleted first per consensus. Black Kite (talk) 10:13, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

2D Love

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There have been discussions about this article on the WikiProject Anime and manga discussion page, but I believe that this article should have a wider hearing. The article is about a phenomenon sometimes seen in otaku culture where otakus have romantic relationships with fictional characters, usually ones that are considered "moe". This practice is frequently called "having a waifu" and such characters are referred to by their "lovers" as their "waifu", after how the word wife is transliterated into Japanese (ワイフ). However, that article's title is a neologism that, according to a search I did, is not widely used by reliable sources, except for the New York Times one on the article, which is mainly anecdotal information and not a full description of the actual term, and a blog article I found on the Christianity Today's blog. A merge to Moe (slang) was suggested on the Anime WikiProject page, and probably that's the best thing to do since the article's quite short anyway. However, the actual phenomenon has received much coverage, although they don't use the term "2D Love". The point is, the term "2D Love" is not supported by enough reliable sources. Our page on neologisms states that if there are reliable sources to create an article, but without a term that is used by reliable sources, then it is preferable to use a more descriptive title rather than a neologism. If the article is kept, then it should probably be moved to such a title. As I am split on whether the article should be merged to Moe (slang) since moe is more or less the same thing or be deleted, I will abstain from this discussion. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:29, 24 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Anime and manga-related deletion discussions. --Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:30, 24 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Redirect to moe. All pertinent facts from the 2D love article are already present in the moe article.-- Stv  Fett erly  (Edits)  14:54, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Redirect to moe, while not all Waifu is moe the majority of it is, makes sense for a redirect here. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 15:05, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Changing opinion to Delete, per below, I do not see 2D love being a redirect term. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 01:16, 27 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Merge with moe - the topic exists, but presently I don't see how notability has been established enough so that it warrants its own article. --  李博杰  &#124; —Talk contribs email 15:20, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment While a merge would probably be alright, I don't think that a redirect will. For one thing, it is a neologism that really hasn't caught on, so it really won't be much of a viable search term. Also, a search for "2D Love" reveals many, many false positives and not enough reliable sources. Second, the article is already so short and whatever content there already is should already be, if it isn't yet, at Moe (slang). If a merger will be done, I just don't think it will be viable to keep the page "2D Love". Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:00, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
 * At the very least then Waifu should be redirected then to Moe, as it is a term used in the Anime and manga scope. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 03:55, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Whoa, we had a redirect for that? That's just as surprising as the wiktionary entry for weeaboo... --  李博杰  &#124; —Talk contribs email 12:06, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Mind if I boldly redirect Waifu to Moe (slang)? Waifu is a much more commonly used phrase and is a much likelier search term than "2D Love". Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:03, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
 * You have no objections here. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 19:46, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Done :) But seriously, if the content is merged to Moe, then the page "2D Love" would probably have to go, for reasons I already stated above. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:15, 26 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Expand. The Article is too short even to judge, but when it's a little longer we can discuss this again. The Mysterious El Willstro (talk) 02:52, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. Content fork of Moe (slang) which covers the same topic. A merger would not be appropriate because the only fact that is not already in Moe (slang) is the term "waifu", but this article has no reliable source for that term. A redirect would also not help because the search term appears unlikely (the redirect can be created once the target article actually mentions this term).  Sandstein   06:54, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.