Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/30 (film)


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The result was   delete. Jayjg (talk) 02:13, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

30 (film)

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Contested prod. Proposed deletion reason was "Non notable film. Apart from one local article in the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, the film has not received any attention from independent reliable sources. Fails WP:N." Prod was removed and the claim added that one notable actress played a supporting rolein the movie. However, no reliable sources about this have been added, so this fact has apparently not received any attention. It is not even mentioned in the one article about this movie,. Fram (talk) 10:11, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 16:55, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Aileen Quinn also had a supporting role. Her first live-action film as an adult since Annie (1982).phillyfest website, accessed March 4 2010  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Curtispollock (talk • contribs) 21:25, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

I did not create this wikipedia article, but was obviously alerted to its presence once someone else had. I noticed you posted it for deletion though, but it adheres to the rules as far as I can tell. there is a very notable actress making her first film in over twenty years. I am not too saavy on how to edit properly on this site as I only joined to fix this matter yesterday, but I believe this is the reference you are looking for.

Aileen Quinn also had a supporting role. Her first live-action film as an adult since Annie (1982).[1] phillyfest website, accessed March 4 2010 Curtispollock (talk) 21:38, 4 March 2010 (UTC) keep —Preceding unsigned comment added by Curtispollock (talk • contribs) 21:00, 5 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete - There is no coverage about the film in reliable sources. I see nothing that would establish notability under the Notability (films) guidelines.  In particular, all we have is that the film was showsn at a film festival.  There is no evidence of significant awards or critical review.  Also note that the writer and director of thsi film is Curtis Pollock so there appears to be a conflict of interest situation.  -- Whpq (talk) 16:04, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete without prejudice. Fram found an article... and it does indeed speak about the film and the director's inspiration for its creation... but that one article is all that I could find. If the director gets it screened at a festival 5 years after its initial release, we might then have it back.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 06:33, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

As I said, I did not create this original article on the movie. I'm not attempting to create any conflict of interest or trying to be deceptive. I joined Wikipedia using my original name, so I'm not hiding anything, merely to point out the credentials and references missed. THere is a review (that I already posted, see: http://phillyfests.bside.com/2007/?_view=_filmdetails&filmId=15659326) in the Phillyfest website by that programs director, Jared Early. He states clearly that this is the first film for Aileen QUinn since Annie. That in and of itself is noteworthy. It has been five years and I still receive inquiries about her efforts in the movie (in fact, I just received an email about her today).

Also, there has been more coverage of the movie than a single article in THe TRibune REview. I was interviewed by CBS and there is a followup article on the interview: http://cbs3.com/topstories/Curtis.Pollock.30.2.308477.html As you can see, it is listed as a top story and also points out Aileen's contribution (nevermind IMDB also points out her return to the screen in the movie).

And here is the writeup from Longbaugh Film festival: http://lff.bside.com/2007/?_view=_filmdetails&filmId=13131011

THe film is also noted as a standout film of that festival in this article: http://www.willametteweek.com/editorial/2007/03/07/the-long-and-shorts-of-longbaugh/

please note that these writeups from Phillyfest and Longbaugh comprise the point of view from the authors, in both cases, the programming director's at each festival. Not mine.

Just to reiterate, I did not publish the original article on the movie. (is there any way to find out who did, by the way?). I was very surprised to find it on Wikipedia to be honest, but once I was alerted to its presence and saw it marked for deletion, I only felt it fair to point out some references since it appears your editors can only find the one article from the Tribune Review. THese are all reliable and independent sources, so they should be considered reliable.

And if there is anything else you feel is needed, please don't hesitate to ask. Curtispollock (talk) 07:48, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
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