Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/30 Great Piano Classics


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. raises a valid point, in that our content is strongly biased in favor of recent events which have received internet coverage. But, that's not enough to overcome the fact that we have standards for what constitutes a reliable source, and this article doesn't seem to meet that. I'm going to delete this for now, but if anybody wants to continue to work on researching sources, ping me and I'll be happy to restore it as a draft; it can be worked on in draft space and should adequate sourcing be found, can be moved back to main article space at a later date. -- RoySmith (talk) 16:55, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

30 Great Piano Classics

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I'm not convinced this meets WP:NALBUM or WP:GNG, althought here are some reviews. A merge was proposed by another editor, see Talk:120 Greatest Musical Masterpieces, nominator and me arguing for merge, one editor (creator) who felt it is a notable album in own right. Boleyn (talk) 11:02, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
 * I would still support a merge, or simply redirect, to 120 Greatest Musical Masterpieces since this one volume does not have an independent coverage in reliable sources to deserve a standalone article, and the tracklist of this one volume is already included in the merge target. A video of an old commercial found on YouTube does not imply significant coverage. -- Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 20:20, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
 * As I see 120 Greatest Musical Masterpieces has also been nominated for deletion and, upon review, it too appears to fail notability requirements, I am changing my support to delete. -- Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 23:00, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. No indication of notability, and I would argue the same for 120 Greatest Musical Masterpieces, which I have now nominated for deletion – those interested may discuss here. –Chase (talk / contribs) 01:56, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep. This is an example of (if not the very first) classical piano compilation album of many (30) "great piano classics". As it is not a recording of a performance and dates to the 1970s it is unreasonable to expect critical reviews (eg on the web). However, it was an important source to show what classical piano pieces were considered "great" and even today the track list is a useful source of information about what can be considered popular. Where else can you find such information!    Surrey John    (Talk) 10:15, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 02:31, 1 January 2015 (UTC) Merge into 120 Greatest Musical Masterpieces.--Раціональне анархіст (talk) 07:49, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete Certainly fails GNG as stands; if a source discussing the implied significant scale of the advertising campaign can be supplied, then there might be an argument to be made for keeping the article for its commercial significance, but there seem to be no reliable and appropriate sources discussing its impact as an album.  S n o w  talk 15:11, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Reply The Article on John Williams (actor) includes "Williams gained fame as the star of a television commercial for 120 Music Masterpieces, a four-LP set of classical music excerpts from Columbia Records. This became the longest-running nationally seen commercial in U.S. television history, for 13 years from 1971 to 1984....."  Surrey John    (Talk) 16:46, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment SurreyJohn, WP is not a WP:RS, do you have a reliable source for it? Boleyn (talk) 18:23, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Reply Is this ref acceptable ? It seems that I've been looking for the wrong album titles. The US releases from the early 1970s by Colombia are called "120 Music Masterpieces" (2x2LP albums) and "30 Piano Masterpieces".   Surrey John    (Talk) 21:30, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
 * IMDB is not really a reliable source for our purposes here, but the comments there do seem to confirm that the advertising campaign may be notable as having resulted in one of the first ever infomercials. I'm not going to switch my vote just yet, but I do think this suggests that closure of the AfD should be postponed to give a reasonable amount of time to continue searching for sources.  It's a pity IMDB doesn't encourage use of inline sourcing itself; it could so often be a magnificent resource to us regarding sources if it did.  S n o w  talk 03:54, 9 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete. I don't think we have enough information yet to say that this album is notable per WP:NALBUMS. The exact same sources used in this article are also used at 120 Greatest Musical Masterpieces, where they are also inadequate and the article is also up for deletion. The difference is that the cited source that lists the tracks of 120 Greatest Musical Masterpieces doesn't list the tracks of 30 Great Piano Classics, making it even less adequate for this article. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 05:40, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.