Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/31st Golden Raspberry Awards


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep with thanks to those who edited the article to fix the problems. Beeblebrox (talk) 00:22, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

31st Golden Raspberry Awards

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How is this possible to announce results for something that has not happened yet from 2011? This seems like a hoax. -- Cirt (talk) 13:52, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I get the feeling this was created from a copy/past of last years article, though why the nominations were added I have no idea :P 83rd Academy Awards exists, so I see no issue with this existing either. I cut out the nominees and cleaned up the text to reflect this as a future event. --Errant $(chat!)$ 14:06, 14 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete. I'm not seeing a hoax here, since this event almost certainly will happen. More likely, it was just confusion about tenses because the creator hadn't checked their work properly. Either way, delete per WP:CRYSTAL.-- K orr u ski Talk 16:01, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, and WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS aside - the academy awards example cited by Errant is interesting but, in my view, not a fair comparison. People are already talking about films as being likely contenders for academy awards, and speculating as to possible nominees, so the next event is notable long before it has happened. This is simply not the case with the Razzies.-- K orr u ski Talk 16:03, 14 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete - original article was hoax, current article is WP:CRYSTAL violation. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 16:16, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
 * With respects, that is incorrect. WP:CBALL specifically states "Individual scheduled or expected future events should only be included if the event is notable and almost certain to take place". The 31st Razzies have been scheduled.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 20:17, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep The Razzies are a notable annual event and it is common practice to create and keep such articles before they happen. The event will occur, the nomination announcement is only a couple of months distant, and there is no reason we shouldn't provide scheduling information, etc., for Wikipedia readers now.  Peacock (talk) 16:18, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete Crystal clear WP:CRYSTAL violation. Jarkeld (talk) 17:10, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
 * With respects, that is incorrect. WP:CBALL specifically states "Individual scheduled or expected future events should only be included if the event is notable and almost certain to take place". The 31st Razzies have been scheduled.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 20:17, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.  -- Jclemens-public (talk) 18:01, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions.  -- Jclemens-public (talk) 18:02, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep - The crystal-ball stuff is now gone, and the incorrect dates (which had been copied from the previous year's article) are now changed to the proper scheduled dates as sourced from the razzies' website. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 19:37, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep Thanks to Baseball Buggs the article is now a valid sourced stub for an upcoming event which violates neither wp:HOAX nor wp:CRYSTAL, so I do not see any reason for deletion remaining. Yoenit (talk) 19:43, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Please note that the user Errant made most of the changes, stripping out the bogus crystal ball stuff except for the dates, which I changed as per the website and also hedged as they are scheduled but not firmly (they apparently don't even have a venue yet). All these changes were done since the nomination, so the nominator needs to review the article again. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 19:47, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep The Razzies are notable, 31st Razzie awards have been scheduled, and article issues have been addressed.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 20:12, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep per Schmidt. Orange Suede Sofa  (talk) 20:44, 14 December 2010 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.