Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/3:16 Game


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 22:59, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

3:16 Game

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Per WP:SPORTSEVENT, individual games are generally better "in an existing article on a broader topic instead of creating a new standalone page." This overlaps with 2011–12 NFL playoffs, 2011 Denver Broncos season, and 2011 Pittsburgh Steelers season. Years after this game, it's clear there has been little WP:LASTING impact or WP:CONTINUEDCOVERAGE after the season. Even if this game were deemed notable, Notability states: "This is not a guarantee that a topic will necessarily be handled as a separate, stand-alone page. Editors may use their discretion to merge or group two or more related topics into a single article." As an aside, the name "3:16 Game" itself shows little use of the term in sources on search engines. The 3:16 references are more relevant to Tim Tebow than the game, and its details from the game are already covered in his bio. 3:16 Game itself is puffed with overly-detailed (and unsourced) play-by-play.—Bagumba (talk) 21:13, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. —Bagumba (talk) 21:16, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete or Merge (and Redirect perhaps to 2011–12 NFL playoffs?). I agree that this topic doesn't merit an article and that this article is overstuffed with unwarranted detail. As such, after ensuring that anything perceived as truly notable/relevant is covered in one (or more) of the articles noted above by Bagumba, I would support deletion. &mdash; DeeJayK (talk) 16:48, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment re: merge There seems little opportunity to merge here. Without CONTINUEDCOVERAGE of the coinkydink of 3-1-6's, it seems WP:UNDUE to merge much more of it. 3-1-6 is more relevant to Tebow than the game, and Tim Tebow already has his key stats and mention that it evoked John 3:16; not much more needs to be said unless people really believe the divine intervention theme is still underrepresented there.  The "Background" section is predominantly a background of Tebow's career, not the game itself, which is again already covered by his extensive bio. Otherwise, the game recap itself is all unsourced, so little opportunity to merge without verification, in which case we may as well use actual RSs, not this article.—Bagumba (talk) 20:26, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Agreed. After taking a closer look at the articles, it seems to me that the 3:16 coincidences are given sufficient coverage in the other articles listed without further merging from this article. Thus, I've abandoned my suggestion to merge. &mdash; DeeJayK (talk) 21:42, 12 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Merge and redirect to Tim Tebow – in reference to Bagumba's last comment, I think there is some useful content about the relationship between Tebow's prominent Christianity and the divine intervention theme which could be transferred to Tebow's article, and I think it would be reasonable to redirect the page to that section of Tebow's article. As Bagumba rightly points out, almost all of the rest of the article is the sort of contextual padding we so often see in articles about games which derive their notability from a single feature which can be described in a single paragraph. Aspirex (talk) 04:02, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per nominator's rationale and the relevant event notability guidelines cited therein. Speaking as a practicing Christian, University of Florida graduate, and a fan of Tim Tebow and the Florida Gators, I find such pseudo-numerology to be embarrassing.  It certainly has no place in a serious encyclopedia, even less so in the absence of significant and continuing coverage of the event.  Everything about the "John 3:16" aspects of this game that needs to be covered is already included in the Tim Tebow article, and the 2011 season article treats all other aspects adequately.  Tebow has great faith and personal character, and I really wish some folks would quit trying to make something weird out of an admirable young man.  Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 01:51, 20 November 2015 (UTC)


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