Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/3 Damansara Shopping Mall


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus, neither here nor in the RFC referenced in the final comment. There's clearly an WP:NPLACE argument to be made for a shopping mall of this magnitude, although I am skeptical that any coverage of shopping malls would be anything other than routine coverage that any other large shopping mall would get. If the guidelines are clarified, deletion of this article can be revisited. ~Anachronist (talk) 18:54, 10 September 2020 (UTC)}}

3 Damansara Shopping Mall

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Looks like a great place, but the article does not meet WP:GNG or WP:BUILD: "Buildings, including private residences and commercial developments, may be notable as a result of their historic, social, economic, or architectural importance, but they require significant coverage by reliable, third-party sources to establish notability." Subject does not have coverage that meets significant coverage by reliable, third-party sources to establish notability. WP:BEFORE revealed advertising, WP:ROUTINE coverage of events and directory style listings.  // Timothy ::  talk  02:41, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Shopping malls-related deletion discussions.   // Timothy ::  talk  02:41, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions.   // Timothy ::  talk  02:41, 20 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete fails WP:GNG. coverage is routine. LibStar (talk) 01:08, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
 * 'Keep Any mall of 700,000 sqft and 200 stores in the US would be kept. We have over 3000 mall articles and this is similar to many of them. MB 03:48, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment You're argument is WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. If there are mall articles that don't meet WP:N, then they should be deleted. If you have sources that meet WP:SIGCOV for WP:GNG that address the subject directly and in-depth, please post them. !votes need to be based on sources, policies, and guidelines. I have nominated a lot of malls in the United States that lack WP:N from WP:RS.
 * No, I'm pointing out that consensus on notability is shown by COMMON OUTCOMES and that when it comes to non-western countries, we should be conscious of bias caused by the availability of online sources. MB 00:12, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Petaling Jaya is surrounded by the Malaysian capital, Kuala Lumpur to the east, Sungai Buloh to the north, Shah Alam, the capital of Selangor and Subang Jaya to the west and Bandar Kinrara (Puchong) to the south. It is in the middle of a developed area of 5,800,000 people with a GDP of US$55.5 billion. You think it lacks internet and online news sources? This is not some remote place.  // Timothy ::  talk  02:11, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 15:29, 29 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep, hsa multiple reliable sources, people calling for deletion have not proven how the sources are "routine" which itself is not a policy-based reason to delete. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 07:49, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment for closer: since there is an RfC currently under discussion at AfD about what is considered proper sourcing for determining mall notabiity, it may be worth holding these open until that is finished. If a close is made, it would be very helpful for the RfC if you could explain how you evaluated the sources in terms of notability, routine, run of the mill coverage, and how you feel voting and !voting influenced this AfD. Thank you,  // Timothy ::  talk  09:12, 4 September 2020 (UTC)


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