Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/40-40-40 club


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The result was redirect to 40-40 club. Pascal.Tesson 13:02, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

40-40-40 club

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Arbitrary. Made up of only one member. Not a recognized concept in baseball. If not deleted, suggest renaming to 41-41-41 club. -- Y not? 22:43, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Violates WP:NEO and WP:NOR. Shalom Hello 22:53, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep, recognized by sportsline, The SF Giants official website, and the official website of the Washington Nationals, and that's when I quit looking. Corvus cornix 22:57, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh c'mon, they're obviously being facetious. There cannot be a club with only one member in it. This is preposterous -- Y not? 23:15, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep - but make it more esplainitory as to how important that is to a team or something. --Rocksanddirt 23:13, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * MERGE with 40-40 club and redirect. Consider merging all small sports-milestone "clubs" into one article per sport, with redirects.  This should really be discussed on Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Baseball.  This article was requested for creation in June of 2006.  The current article appears to be an independent creation.  If it is deleted, someone will request or recreate it sooner or later.  MERGE will likely prevent this. originally unsigned, signed later by davidwr/  (talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail)  02:27, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge per the unsigned comment above.--JForget 00:10, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. What's next, the 1,000 stolen base club with just Rickey Henderson?  The 500-win club with just Cy Young?  —Wknight94 (talk) 01:05, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Next is the 27000 edits club with me, you and SimonP :) -- Y not? 01:16, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete There's simply way too much of these "clubs" for baseball.  3000, 400?   They take pretty much any round number and a secondary category to show how good a player is.   Delete because there is no articles about the "40-40-40" club.   Corpx 02:36, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * The correct clubs are the ones that are well-sourced. A-level clubs would be 3,000 hits, 500 home runs, 300 wins.  Those are all automatic Hall of Fame clubs (or were before the steroid era) and are well-documented as such.  B-level may be 30-30 and 40-40.  Others can probably add  few to that list.  Outside of those, most baseball "clubs" are arbitrary or made up (this one leans towards the latter).  —Wknight94 (talk) 02:49, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, it may be sourced by all those publications, but that doesn't mean that it deserves an article. As noted earlier, why do we need an article on a one-member club?  Instead, if there's any reference to this, add a short mention to the Soriano article.  Nyttend 03:26, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Redirect to 40-40 club. The 40-40-40 club is just a prmotional gadget for the Nationals, as it is really quite arbitrary that doubles are added.  40-40 has gained traction in baseball culture, because the two aspects - home runs and stolen bases - combine two traits perceived to be opposites: speed and power.  40-40-40?  Not so much. Resolute 04:01, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak delete: the only member of the club is Alfonso Soriano. I'm not entirely sure that one player doing something should create a brand new article.  Additionally, I've never heard of the 40-40-40 club.  I didn't even know what the final "40" was until I looked on the page.  As Resolute stated, I think the Nationals just "created" the club because they wanted to create a special area for Alfonso Soriano as a promotion.  Nobody really keeps track of doubles, and by that I mean when somebody hits their 40th double, it doesn't garner national attention.  The 40 HR/40 SB did get notable attention from ESPN and MLB, but they weren't paying attention to how many doubles he has hit.  I don't think it should be re-directed because the "40-40-40 club" isn't the 40-40 club; it has an additional parameter.  Again, only one player is in the club, so to say that he found it doesn't really mean much until a couple other guys join the club, as well.  I think a small note on 40-40 club saying that Soriano also achieved 40 doubles on the season should be enough.  Ksy92003  (talk)  06:33, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - fine to mention the achievement on the Alfonso Soriano page (which it appears to), not notable enough to warrant a seperate page just to reiterate the accomplishment. Even that pages refers to the achievement of 40 Hr- 40 SB- 20 outfield assists; again, perhaps an accomplishment in of itself, but a separte page on the intersection on these 3 stats doesn't add anythingCander0000 22:47, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. This is trivial, even for baseball. Jayjg (talk) 21:10, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
 * LOL - what's the implication, that most of baseball is trivial?? Heresy! -- Y not? 21:53, 30 July 2007 (UTC)


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