Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/411 SOLUTIONS International


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The result was   delete.   Wifione    .......  Leave a message  17:09, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

411 SOLUTIONS International

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Apparently nonnotable IT company which has won a couple of local awards. The main source cited, Chicago Business, requires a subscription to view. Regardless, this company doesn't meet the notability standards of WP:CORP. NawlinWiki (talk) 17:41, 1 October 2010 (UTC) However, being an IBM PREMIER Business Partner is not common. Only 5% of all Business Partners have Premier status. This level is extremely difficult to obtain and is only granted for demonstrating exceptional market success. They actively collaborate with IBM to deliver significant client value through innovative solutions. Allisonjk17 (talk) 18:14, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Disagree - this is a notable IT company, as they are presented in several publications including WE USA, Crain's Chicago Business and the CEO appeared on a Radio Show. The company is associated with IBM, another notable entry in Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Allisonjk17 (talk • contribs) (article author, no edits outside this topic)
 * Response Being listed in business directories doesn't satisfy WP:CORP. Also, IBM has about a zillion "business partners" -- that status doesn't make each of them notable.  NawlinWiki (talk) 17:52, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
 * That this company has earned some distinction at IBM by being a premier business partner does not equate to notability. Please see the general notability guidelines, Notability, and the notability guidelines for companies and organizations Notability_(organizations_and_companies).Mtiffany71 (talk) 20:00, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete Google news search for company returns ZERO results. Google search returns results to company's website, linkedin profile, and other sites which may promote the company but do not prove notability. WP is not marketing tool or a platform for promotion. Isn't there a speedy delete tag for this sort of blatant spam and abuse? Mtiffany71 (talk) 20:12, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete, borderline speedy. Fails WP:CORP badly.  The "IBM business partner" program that Allison is so proud of isn't anything special, the exact requirements for it are found here. Andrew Lenahan -  St ar bli nd  20:24, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

If the article is not written appropriately to justify our notability, that is understood, but your comments are both disrespectful to myself and to this company. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Allisonjk17 (talk • contribs) 20:43, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment It's not that the article is not written appropriately to justify your company's notability, it's the fact that your company is not notable enough to justify an article, so could you spare us the self-indulgent passive-aggressive nonsense, or is that too much to ask? And you want to bring up people being disrespectful? You know what's disrespectful? Someone who only signs up to edit Wikipedia so they can create an article about their company and then whines about the consequences when they get caught doing it. That's disrespectful, and a couple of other words come to mind too. You joined today, and the first article you created was about your company, and the only other page you've edited is this one, in defense of keeping your company's page, so please don't act like anyone should care about any possible offense you may take when they make the argument that your company's WP article is blatant self-serving crapvertsing and ought to be deleted as such. Wikipedia is not here to be a business directory, or to give free publicity to any and all comers, or to help your so-thoughtfully-named company get a better position in Google search results. You want publicity? Take out a paid advertisement. I'd tell you to advertise here, but since WP is a not-for-profit funded solely by donations, you can't. So until your company actually does something notable, I guess that scuttles your company's page.Mtiffany71 (talk) 02:25, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Furthermore, the Wikipedia "Notability" Requirements summary states the following: Wikipedia covers notable topics—those that have been "noticed" to a significant degree by independent sources. A topic is deemed appropriate for inclusion if it complies with WP:NOT and has received significant coverage in reliable secondary sources. If 411 SOLUTIONS has had mentions and features in Crain's Chicago Business, WE USA, appeared on the Aldonna Ambler Radio Show and has visibility for special programs and credentials within IBM, how does this not justify enough "Independent Resources" that have "noticed" this company. The notability piece also dictates that "popularity" is not something that justifies something to be notable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Allisonjk17 (talk • contribs) 20:49, 1 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete: Meeting of WP:CORP seems highly suspect, as business directories do not make for significant coverage. Plus the article seems to be attempting to inherit notability from the company's CEO, rather than providing its own. Also reads quite like an advertisement, plus potentially a copyright violation of the first of its sources. -- BenTels (talk) 22:51, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 17:46, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Computing-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 17:47, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. Even if this were a notable business, which it does not appear to be, the current text would still need to be deleted as unambiguous advertising: ....provides a wide range of Business Continuity, High Availability, Co-location, Online Backups and Disaster Recovery solutions to small and medium business (SMB) in North America and international markets. - Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 01:12, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete: just not notable.  Dewritech (talk)  13:52, 3 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete - The CEO seems more notable than the company, but the company in question has a lack of depth of coverage per WP:CORP IMO. --Artlovesyou (talk) 16:49, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
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