Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/51SIM


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The result was   delete. Cirt (talk) 00:17, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

51SIM and 51Give

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Speedy G11 declined. Although there are references establishing that some of this organization's projects were notable, none of these references link the organization to the projects in question. Google News returns nothing. Delete.  Blanchardb - Me•MyEars•MyMouth - timed 19:17, 4 February 2010 (UTC)  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Tim Song (talk) 01:10, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
 * comment I declined the speedy, but tagged for notability issues. It seems to me that the tone is not so promotional that it couldn't be dealt with by normal editing, provided that the organization is notable. Given that this is a Chinese organization, Google results, particularly English-language Google results, may suffer from systemic bias -- there might be sources in newspapers or other works published in China. On the other hand, it is not implausible that this is not (or not yet) notable. There may be WP:COI issues also, the creator seems to be a single purpose account or nearly so: the user's edits are to 51Give, 51SIM, and the deleted articles Daniel Foa and  Hiu Ng, and no others. DES (talk) 20:41, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I am adding 51Give to this AfD. The articles are about closely related organizations, and have similar issues. They were both created and primarily edited by the same user. I declined G11 speedies on both. DES (talk) 21:04, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 * A Google news search finds 2 English language hits with trivial passing mentions, and a number of Chinese-language hits. I hope someone with the required language skills can look at the latter and summarize them here. DES (talk) 21:09, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Interestingly, Chinese sources write "51Sim" in the Latin alphabet. According to a machine translation, this source cites 51Sim as a sponsor of a competition at Hong Kong University. --  Blanchardb - Me•MyEars•MyMouth - timed 02:41, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
 * See also the previous AfD Articles for deletion/51Give. DES (talk) 21:12, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 00:07, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NW ( Talk ) 18:32, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Comment I swear to God I've seen this article before under another name. But I can't for the life of me remember the other article's name. Angryapathy (talk) 18:54, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
 * It's great that I read before I type. Idiot. Anyway, this is just a recreation of previous articles, see 51Give's previous deletion debates: Articles for deletion/51Give. Angryapathy (talk) 19:00, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete - Recreation of previously deleted material, possible copyvio and/or possible WP:COI and no evidence of notability. -RobertMel (talk) 19:57, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete Not sure about notability, but both these pages read like a corporate brochure. Smocking (talk) 20:07, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Which makes it both WP:NOT and WP:SPAM. Also, I forgot to add that the article was entirely created by a WP:SPA that has WP:COI. Smocking (talk) 20:14, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
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