Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/5573 (Hebrew year)


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The result was   keep. Cirt (talk) 11:48, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

5573 (Hebrew year)

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Contains no nontemplated information, is an isolated hebrew year (no years for at least 27 years in either direction are listed), is unreferenced, and has been untouched for over 16 months. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 18:18, 22 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Judaism-related deletion discussions.   —— Arthur Rubin  (talk) 18:22, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment I'm intentionally not nominating the future and nonisolated Hebrew years at this time, even if no non-templated information is available, until this AfD is resolved. — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 18:28, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep WP includes the function of an almanac, and such tables of correspondences are standard in almanacs. This is a perfectly reasonable way of presenting information about the dates, even without events. It is not just the corresponding Gregoriian dates ? should Julian be added also? but the position in the various Jewish cycles. All in all that makes sufficient information for an entry. It's not just events, but events can easily be added to every one of them, at least in the past. This would be one of the few good uses of the public domain old Jewish Encyclopedia, for example  The ref can be any printed source for hebrew calendars, but just as we do not need a source for 1 Feb following 31 Jan, we don't need one for 1 Chesevan following 30 Tishrei.  The solution to having these isolated ones is pretty obvious: add the others. WEDONTHAVEALLOFTHEMYET is not a reason for deletion. DGG (talk) 23:22, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: That purpose of this page could be better served by having a logical subpage of Hebrew Calendar, with (possibly hidden) calendar "pages" (sections), rather than individual pages for the years. — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 23:45, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep, per User:DGG, and because if this article/Hebrew year is deleted then all such Hebrew year articles should be deleted. Perhaps there can be a more general discussion in the near future at WP:TALKJUDAISM about the desirability and purpose of having articles keeping track of, and recording events via the Hebrew years. IZAK (talk) 08:30, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: I still don't see any the purpose for the page. DGG hasn't described a purpose which is not better served by merging it into a single calendar page for the "century", with collapsed individual calendar entries.  I don't know if any of the Hebrew year pages have non-templated information, but, if not, they should be merged into decade or century calendars, just as the English language pages are done futurewards of 2060.  There's also a proposal that all year articles before 500 or 1000 be merged into the decade articles, which is getting some support.  — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 18:34, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep as per DGG. Edward321 (talk) 14:18, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - I don't see a reason for deletion listed in the nomination; and, besides, if the intention is to merge these types of articles into a larger representative article, that discussion does not belong at AFD, per WP:BEFORE. - Neier (talk) 10:14, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - per Neier - Epson291 (talk) 05:47, 27 October 2008 (UTC)


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