Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/585 AM


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Spartaz Humbug! 23:11, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

585 AM

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No indication of notability Polyamorph (talk) 21:04, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Radio-related deletion discussions. The Mighty Glen (talk) 02:19, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Iran-related deletion discussions. The Mighty Glen (talk) 02:19, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. The Mighty Glen (talk) 02:22, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep most terrestrial broadcast stations are notable, and this is a set-index article for a common way to describe them. It's very incomplete, but other stations do exist; some are listed at List of European medium wave transmitters and there are others in Australia (such as ABC News (radio) in Perth). power~enwiki ( π,  ν ) 05:33, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. Only one station (non-notable by the way) does not meet WP:LISTN. Ajf773 (talk) 10:40, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —SerialNumber54129  paranoia / cheap sh*t room 14:11, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Redirect or keep. If only one station in the world operates at this frequency and an article exists, then redirect to that station. If there are other stations operating on that frequency, keep and add redlinks for the other stations, which are automatically notable. Use the same principles as any other disambiguation page Eastmain (talk • contribs) 20:36, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep. First, all licensed radio stations are notable, and so are lists of them and disambiguation pages that list multiple licensed radio stations . Second, there are many other radio stations that broadcast on the frequency. See this list. Third, there are similar list articles for other broadcast frequencies, and AM 600 is a good example of a list of notable broadcasters in several different countries. Fourth, we should not have a rule that lists of AM radio stations operating at multiples of 10 kHz (the standard in the United States and Canada) are notable while those at other frequencies are not. Intentionally or not, this series of nominations targets non-North American stations and would reinforce the underrepresentation of the non-English-speaking world in the English Wikipedia. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 21:06, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment. You may want to review how Systemic bias and Countering systemic bias apply to this article. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 23:26, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep. This is a list article that serves to help direct people to notable topics, not a thing that has to be "notable" in its own right. A consensus was established long ago that because people don't always know the correct name of an individual radio station they might be looking for, lists to help differentiate radio stations by frequency are warranted as a wikinavigation aid — and the fact that only one station has been listed here so far is not in and of itself proof that this frequency should be excepted from that consensus, because as noted above other stations do exist on this frequency and just haven't been added here yet. Eastmain has it exactly right: because North American radio only uses the AM frequencies that are multiples of ten, while much of the rest of the world does not follow that limitation and also uses the frequencies between the tens, it would represent systemic bias to suggest that an AM radio frequency should only have a navigation list if it has North American radio stations on it. Bearcat (talk) 15:12, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Speedy withdraw this AfD per the arguments above. Note there was no intentional bias on my part, it was purely a notability argument, but as there is precedent for keeping such articles I withdraw my nomination. Polyamorph (talk) 16:43, 18 June 2018 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.