Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/5 Rabbit Cervecería


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) – Davey 2010 Talk 23:11, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

5 Rabbit Cervecería

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One-off publicity stunt pulled by a Chicago brewery as a revenge over Trump's comments about Mexico. Fails GNG by a hundred miles despite quoting 15 sources who covered their joke. Delete per WP:PLUG. — JFG talk 16:55, 31 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep, for sure. The article has a number of references that are unrelated to the Trump beer situation.  In the  current version of the article that would be footnotes 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 22, and 23 (ignoring 24 because that's the brewery's own website).  5 Rabbit got more than an average amount of press coverage for a local brewery, because (1) they're pretty successful, (2) there were several lawsuits by financial partners a few years ago, and (3) the beer has a Hispanic theme, which is pretty unusual.  The brewery easily meets the general notability guideline and the breweries notability guideline. — Mudwater (Talk) 19:17, 31 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep No idea what the publicity stunt you're referring to is (I try to avoid the news whenever possible) but a specific beer name has absolutely zero relevance to the fact of the matter: this article is about an active commercial brewery in the Chicago area. It's also the first Mexian-American owned craft brewery in the area, which makes it culturally relevant as well. And not to mention5-Rabbit has been around a whole lot longer than Trump's 2016 Presidential bid. Lagunitas did a beer called Wilco Tango Foxtrot as a jab by owner (Tony McGee) at the current president's economic plan back in 2010, so if you're going to make the case for 5-Rabbit warranting deletion because of a beer name that mocks a politician, then you need to remember that it isn't an isolated thing and to keep it equal (i.e. no one suggested deleting the Lagunitas article after the beer's release). Whatever the case, please keep your politcial opinions out of the WP 'Deletion' process. This is clearly an unwarranted nomination... and, more to the point, Wikipedia is not about censorship -- which is what it appears you're basically looking to do here. Ryecatcher773 (talk) 23:30, 31 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks for pointing out how this brewery is independently notable. I am in no way making a political statement or attempting censorship here: I stumbled on this article as it was cited in List of things named after Donald Trump with no less than 15 references to the same joke, so and I came here to see the same long string of citations for this stunt. I saw that the article had been  during the primaries, talking only about the "Chinga tu pelo" anti-Trump beer renaming. I assumed that their sudden notoriety was only due to this feat, so the WP:PLUG alert rang in some part of my nervous system and I pushed the AfD button, admittedly a bit quick. If the business is notable, great. Let the process run its course. Somebody will have to trim the citations if the page is kept, because the current status doesn't look encyclopedic. — JFG talk 01:01, 1 September 2016 (UTC)


 * I've adjusted the references, adding a few new general ones, and removing a lot of the ones for the Trump beer incident, leaving in the best ones. I posted about this at Talk:5 Rabbit Cervecería.  — Mudwater (Talk) 13:28, 1 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep the first Hispanic-owned brewery in the USA is notable Victor Grigas (talk) 07:58, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep easily passes WP:GNG.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:47, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. North America1000 06:21, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions. North America1000 06:21, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
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 * Keep – Meets WP:CORPDEPTH per a review of available sources. See the article for some of them. North America1000 10:38, 2 September 2016 (UTC)


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