Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/6th Street Station


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The result was   delete. Per Elkman, if it's not currently planned to exist, then it has to go. Black Kite 23:56, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

6th Street Station

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Non notable future station. Fails WP:RS, WP:N, and WP:CRYSTAL. Delete Undead Warrior (talk) 02:47, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. This is not exactly a crystal ball exercise. Planning for the rail line is underway, although construction has not yet begun. --Eastmain (talk) 03:40, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment This is the exact same comment you left on the other ones. Planning is not enough. Sources are needed. Construction is needed. This article is about something that might happen. Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. Undead Warrior (talk) 05:08, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete The station is not even under construction yet, nor are there any linked sites to point to it being noteworthy enough to be included. Proposed or not I say delete. - Dlrohrer  2003  05:18, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep per Eastmain. This project is beyond crystal ball phase and is actually planned, not just proposed. --Oakshade (talk) 18:43, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Minnesota-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  19:52, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  19:52, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Unsourced notability. OhNo itsJamie Talk 23:50, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep, this station has been politically approved, and therefore has a very high probability (not just might be) of being built. Therefore WP:Crystal Ball does not apply and the station should be considered notable. Groundbreaking is not a requirement for inclusion, just that it is "almost certain to take place", which the planning of this project has now reached. Arsenikk (talk)  06:30, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. 6th Street isn't shown on the current planning map of the Central Corridor -- the nearest stops are 10th Street and Fourth and Cedar.  This engineering diagram shows that there's no plan for a 6th Street station right now, and that the station platform is already diagonally located between 4th and 5th Streets.  I don't know where they'd even put a proposed 6th Street Station -- it's pretty well boxed in between the Town Square parking ramp and the Macy's store, which apparently opened in the former Dayton's location.  (OH, and if you want some extra fun, tell them to catch the train at the corner of 8th and Cedar.) --Elkman (Elkspeak) 20:19, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * After a little more research, I think I see what the story is. An earlier draft Environmental Impact Statement listed a station on 6th Street.  The new supplemental draft EIS, page 3-28, states that they're going to cut diagonally across the block bounded by 4th, 5th, Cedar, and Minnesota Streets and build a larger station there.  Page 2-17 of this document says they're going to do the diagonal because it fixes a tight curve and a bunch of impacts to utilities.  Thus, it looks apparent that the 6th Street Station was the product of an earlier design, which has since been modified, so it isn't in the plans any more.  --Elkman (Elkspeak) 20:49, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete -- Articles on future stations are WP:CRYSTAL at least until the project is funded and the construction contract agreed. Peterkingiron (talk) 22:10, 6 September 2008 (UTC)


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