Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/88.9 Lancer Radio - Pasadena Campus Sounds


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was delete. W.marsh 23:22, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

88.9 Lancer Radio - Pasadena Campus Sounds
Delete. This is a class project. It is not a licensed FM broadcast station. The article name is in violation of WP:NC. It is a vanity page with little hope of becomming more. I would hope that once they become an internet radio station or a licensed FM station a new page is created, but until then I don't think that this belongs on wikipedia. The fate of this page has been talked about both on the article's talk page and here. I would encourage all editors to read what has been posted at both locations. &mdash;A 08:50, 7 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete. A 0.1 watt station with no call letters is not yet notable. I could shout the news from a tall building and virtually as many people would hear me. Grandmasterka 09:00, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Slight merge to Pasadena City College. &mdash;Quarl (talk) 2006-02-07 09:34Z 
 * Delete as non-notable radio station. --Ter e nce Ong (恭喜发财) 10:11, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete Non-notable Avi 17:12, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. When the FCC licenses you, give us a call. --Kinu 19:01, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete or merge per Quarl.  OhNo itsJamie Talk 22:18, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment: I'd vote delete, but am concerned about setting precedent affecting other, notable unlicensed stations. While this station is probably nn, lack of licensing is not a bar to notability. A drian L amo ··  22:51, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I would agree that being unlicenced alone is not enough to have an article deleted. However it is a good metric that should be combined with others. &mdash;A 08:18, 8 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Slight Merge into Pasadena City College, minus most of the content as it is promotional fluff. I would think the station's staff's time would be more productively spent getting their own website up instead of editing Wikipedia. DHowell 00:24, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete -- unlicensed microbroadcaster, dead link, not even a notable pirate station like Radio Caroline or Free Radio Santa Cruz. Try www.part15.us. Haikupoet 03:19, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete, per nom. Can&#39;t sleep, clown will eat me 08:44, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge into Pasadena City College. A drian L amo ··  09:50, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NFT. Stifle 18:39, 8 February 2006 (UTC)


 * comment Lancer Radio is a 24 hour Broadcasted Radio Station. it is officially recognized by the Inter-Collegiate Broadcast Society it is also Registered with Sound Exchange. The Radio Station was officially recognized by the Tornament of Roses as an Official MEDIA/PRESS. The Lancer Radio was official recognized by the 2005 BET Awards and broadcasts Live the Pasadena City Council meetings. It was invited OFFICIALLY to the Inaugeration of LA Mayor Villagaroisa. Lancer Radio was recognized officially and was allowed to broadcast Live during a presentation by CA Gov Schwatzenegger. Lancer radio presents LIVE News coverage of National, Political, Sports, Gay and lesbian, and College News. Lancer radio also uses remote broadcast which many commercial radio stations do not have. lancer radio is not a class project. it is an independent chartered club which is student run. the website is up and running with in the next 3 weeks at www.lancerradio889.pasadena.edu. To consider Lancer radio as any less the Free radio Santa Cruz or Radio Caroline is idiotic. Lancer Radio is a well regulated radio station operated in accordance with FCC guidlines. Lancer Radio WAS formerly known as KPCS 88.9 Lancer radio has been broadcast for 20 plus years. it is has been officially recognized by the City of Pasadena, and the Pasadena Area Community College District. it has been invited by Schwatzenegger and Villagairosa to cover their event... and is an OFFICIAL MEMBER in good standing of the INTER-COLLIGIATE BROADCAST SOCIETY.. even many Licensed college radios do not have membership. Lancer radio has a fixed Location in a radio station with two fixed phone numbers one an official Contact Number (626)585-9285 and an Official request line at 626-792-6867.....it has talk showes and Music Programs with official recognition to air licensed music through sound exchange
 * Comment -- the FCC license is what counts, and the official standards for broadcast notability don't even consider that a given. WTBU would be an example of a case where I would say keep (though I'm biased, I wrote the article) -- major university, World Wide Web presence, perhaps most importantly Howard Stern's first radio gig. WVBC, across town at Boston College, wouldn't rate -- I went to BC and nobody on campus even knew it existed (not to be confused with WZBC, which is a major alt-rock station in the Boston market). And Radio Caroline and FRSC are notable for their own reasons -- Caroline for its years of influence on northern European listening habits, and FRSC for their stand against the FCC. Flea power stations are great. I want to run one myself. But there are other websites (such as the one I mentioned above, www.part15.us), where this information belongs. (BTW, my advice as someone with a passing interest in microbroadcasting: you'll get much better range on AM without the legal hassles of FM operation, which is really way too strict for its own good.) Haikupoet 23:48, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
 * For the record, it hardly ever helps to show up on AfD and assert that anyone that doesn't appreciate your pet project is "idiotic" ... A drian L</b> amo <b style="color:#F660AB;">·· </b> 06:19, 9 February 2006 (UTC)


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