Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/A.J.O'Brian


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The result was Keep and moved to A. J. O'Brien. Fram (talk) 09:22, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

A.J.O'Brian
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Contested prod; removed by author. Fails notability for military officers. &mdash;  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 15:34, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete non-notable. JuJube (talk) 16:38, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
 * With respect to Mr. O'Brian, Delete per nomination and Notability (people). • Anakin (talk) 19:02, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete, no evidence of significance. --Dhartung | Talk 19:27, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. Maybe not notable as a military officer, but he acted as Deputy Commissioner of a district with an area of over 2000 square miles and a present-day population of over a million. That would make him roughly equivalent to a Governor of Delaware or Rhode Island. Phil Bridger (talk) 16:03, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: Perhaps, but I'm questioning the sources on this one. Only 170 ghits. If this person is truly notable, you'd think we'd at least know what the "A.J." stands for; as it's shown now, it's just written as "Mr. O'Brian." &mdash;  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 16:15, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment. You say you're questioning the sources, so does that mean that you have checked them in a library? If not then you are failing to assume good faith. You seem not to realise that the Internet didn't exist 100 years ago, so Google hits are not the best way to judge this person's notability, which certainly doesn't depend on what his first names were. Phil Bridger (talk) 21:54, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment. I'm assuming good faith as best as I can; all I'm questioning is that, in those two references given, at least one of them should have said what either the A or the J stands for. &mdash;  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 23:32, 23 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep as per Phil Bridger. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/A.J.O%27Brian&action=editEdward321 (talk) 15:57, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * keep per Phi. I would be very surprised if there were not more dead tree sources about him. This is the sort of article where it will naturally be hard to find sources online. That's a reason for people to go look for them, not a reason to delete. JoshuaZ (talk) 20:35, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: The article was created on Feb 19th; it's almost a week later, and the original editor hasn't touched the page since then. &mdash;  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 20:49, 25 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment: I think the surname may be mis-spelled: I've put two articles written by an 'A. J. O'Brien' who fits his description into the page. Is he Major Aubrey O'Brien? Dsp13 (talk) 13:29, 26 February 2008 (UTC) - Yes, I'm inclined to think Aubrey John O'Brien (1870-1930), who as well as 'The Mohammadan Saints of the Western Punjab,' Journal of the Royal Anthropological Institute, Vol. XLI also co-authored Cupud and Cartridges and The Man Who Paid with a Reginald Bolster. See Who was Who 1929-40. But I don't know my Punjab from my Mianwali, so I'm unsure. Dsp13 (talk) 13:40, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: Wow, that changes everything; nicely done. Is there anywhere else we can ask for help/verification on this sort of thing? Any of the Wikiprojects? &mdash;  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 14:13, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment. Your Mianwali is in your Punjab (up in the top left corner), so I reckon you're on to something there. Great work! Phil Bridger (talk) 14:29, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Further comment. You're definitely on to something - this confirms that we're talking about the same guy, unless there was a Capt. A. J. O'Brian and a Capt. A. J. O'Brien who were both deputy commissioners in the Punjab at the same time. Phil Bridger (talk) 14:36, 26 February 2008 (UTC)


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