Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/A.T.M JEFF (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Article's subject is found to not be notable. &mdash; Coffee //  have a cup  //  beans  // 00:03, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

A.T.M JEFF
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Still not notable. Lacks coverage in independent reliable sources. Has lots of sources but none are independent reliable sources that have any depth of coverage about him. Some do not even verify the claims made. Awards are not major. No releases on important label. No charting or gold. duffbeerforme (talk) 08:07, 26 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep.  I'm seeing some solid references for this article  by SBS Australia and other website, and the Awards that he won i see some Australia and America stars were nominated too. For example the Australian artist Timomatic and Vivica Fox those are big stars so i think we should keep it.--Frankjohnson1960 (talk) 13:42, 26 February 2015 (UTC) — Frankjohnson1960 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * Strong Keep - Because i'm an old man and i see the artist has won some awards with stars that are known and also if you check on his Facebook fan page, he has over 30,000 fans. He seems to be a star too just from my point of view.--Yudes (talk) 14:43, 26 February 2015 (UTC) — Yudes (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. Grahame (talk) 23:30, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:36, 27 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Weak Keep.  I admit that initially I was a bit skeptical, but it looks like he's notable for his time on BBA and for his music career. He's received a Afro Australian Music Award, which seems to be relatively major in that country. I'm not entirely happy with the sourcing, but there seems to be just enough to where he'd squeak by notability guidelines. I even saw a solid reference where he had an interview with the SBS swahili so he must be big in his home town. Even if you check his Facebook page has over 36,000 fans and his also verified on his page--Burundi78 (talk) 01:31, 27 February 2015 (UTC) — Burundi78 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Delete - can't find evidence of meeting WP:GNG or WP:NMUSIC. Awards received are nowhere near "relatively major". Call me cynical, but some of the previous votes seem a little suspicious. Doctorhawkes (talk) 05:53, 27 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep - Can't see the reason why this article would be deleted. I have been a wikipedia member for fews years and i have seen lot worse articles than this that have no references or have 2 to 3 references and are still there. But i found this article has good references and also the artist has won some awards where some known celebrities where nominated.--Doctorwilliam1973 (talk) 07:42, 27 February 2015 (UTC) — Doctorwilliam1973 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * Delete as it stands - perhaps the single-issue editors could add solid referencing to the article and improve it to be worth keeping - David Gerard (talk) 11:56, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment - i see people complaining saying delete and other keep, but lets be honest i see nothing wrong with this article it has good references and the artist seems to be big and has won some awards. Even tho people are saying the Awards he won was independent awards, i don't see how it's  independent while the actress  Vivica Fox who's Hollywood  actress were nominated too. I have searched for the artist called Tim Omaji who were nominated too and seems to be huge star in they home country. The awards looks like they were major in they home country, i think this article deserve to be kept.--Julias ws (talk) 14:38, 27 February 2015 (UTC)  — Julias ws (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * Comment This article was deleted per the previous discussion: Articles for deletion/A.T.M JEFF It was then recreated yet again by User:Etiennebaheza (same name as subject) and speedy-deleted as a recreation; if deleted this time around, it should probably be WP:SALTed as spam - David Gerard (talk) 17:32, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
 * keep Well sourced and notable. Thanks.--Diomadi (talk) 18:01, 27 February 2015 (UTC) — Diomadi (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Delete and salt the freaking earth: Y'know, I've never seen an AfD with a flood of sock/meatpuppets voting Keep where the subject was notable--- it's almost a solid enough indicator of non-notability to form a deletion rationale in of itself. But in the wave of blogs, obscure webpages, press releases, WP:ROUTINE coverage and non-notable awards, there's just one little thing missing in the article: substantial coverage of the subject in multiple, published, reliable sources.  You'd think, for one, that an artist based out of Perth who was remotely notable would've been featured in The West Australian, which is Perth's daily newspaper.  He's not.   Nha Trang  Allons! 21:41, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment: Wow! i see my account has been added in list of investigations? Just for voting this article turns my account into danger zone, well that's ridiculous............. Mz7 whatever you call yourself, you're one of those people who makes other people feel down and bad or want to kill themselves. Anyways this is not my problem to keep it or delete it, you people can decide what to do. All i was trying to do was just voting because there is some people here on wikipedia who are just here to hate on people's article. Once they don't like the article they just nominate it for deletion for no reason. I have a  friend who  had an good article here on wikipedia and it got deleted for no reason while it had everything it takes to be here. So every time i see an article that has been nominated for deletion and i think is good article, i vote for it. As i mention before that there is some wikipedia users that are here just to nominate articles that they don't like, even though the article has good references once they don't like it they will nominate it for deletion. By the way it's administrator's choice to keep the article or delete. --Yudes (talk) 00:47, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Reply: The article was nominated for deletion FOR reasons. They're right at the top of the page, and you might have read it instead of spending all that time creating sockpuppets.  Nha Trang  Allons! 21:26, 2 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Comment I see people making an argument on this article that i have created saying that the artist is independent artist? well for y'all information this artist is not independent, he was signed with Sony BMG back in 2006. Since in 2010 he has been signed with DME Entertainment. I have no idea why you guys are saying that his an independent artist, i have been busy to sit down and put down everything about his past label sony BMG and how he got signed with it. But since you guys are complaining about this article saying that his an independent, i'll try to finish writing it very soon.  --AAO2015 (talk) 11:56, 1 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Note to closing admin: There is an ongoing SPI surrounding this AfD. Mz7 (talk) 22:10, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
 * strong delete fails WP:MUSICBIO. in my several years experience in WP, the swarming of desperate single purpose editors is a clear indicator that the subject is not notable. LibStar (talk) 15:21, 1 March 2015 (UTC)


 * WP:TNT per Nha Trang and LibStar. Pax 08:29, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
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