Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/A. K. High School and College


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Kadamtali Thana. Deor (talk) 21:20, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

A. K. High School and College

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Primary sources. Doesn't meet WP:GNG guideline. No notability. ➤  Tajwar – thesupermaN! 【Click to Discuss】  07:14, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. ➤  Tajwar – thesupermaN!  【Click to Discuss】  07:14, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bangladesh-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 08:07, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Education-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 08:07, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment. Could someone please search for Bengali-language references that could be added to this article? Searching for references in the appropriate language is an important part of WP:BEFORE. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 15:51, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  14:45, 28 September 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Redirect, merge, or delete?
 * Redirect to settlement Shyampur Thana Kadamtali Thana and create an education section there listing the school. Searches of the usual types, including in Bengali, found mostly routine trivial mentions, similar to the single independent source in the article. Arguably an article based mainly on third-party sources could be constructed from:, which describe a father allegedly being beaten by school employees for refusing to pay a $1-2 fee, principal Selim Bhuiyan being jailed for providing fake Ph.D. degrees, him being jailed for allegedly embezling $370,000 from the school, his political cronys staging a protest calling for his release, and the Anti-Corruption Commission suing him for concealing illegally amassed wealth. But those stories are more about former Principal Selim Bhuiyan than about A. K. High School and College. --Worldbruce (talk) 21:13, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I've altered my recommended redirect target because it turns out that the college is not in Shyampur Thana but in Kadamtali Thana. There is already an education section there that mentions it along with other colleges in the neighborhood. --Worldbruce (talk) 21:47, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect/Merge to Shyampur Thana .4meter4 (talk) 17:00, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Merging a list of one (rather dubious) school into a political division article is WP:UNDUE. If someone wants to create a proper education section in that article then fair enough, but as it is, merging would be a poor decision for an AFD. SpinningSpark 18:55, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete None of the sources presented above amount to substantial coverage of the school itself. If no additional sources can be found, the subject is not notable under GNG. No compelling reasons for redirecting have been given. Modussiccandi (talk) 19:45, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mlb96 (talk) 03:04, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Insufficient coverage in independent sources. MrsSnoozyTurtle 22:01, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete, no redirect. The reason in WP:Redirects that comes closest to this case is that sub-topics of a larger article can redirect to said article. However, one specific school in a district is far from a sub-topic of that district's article; I'm pretty sure we don't typically create a redirect for a non-notable organisation to the place in which that organisation is located, and arguably doing so would be promotional.  PJvanMill ) talk ( 00:28, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Switching to redirect per below - if there really is consensus for creating such redirects for schools, then sure. I will say I have some reservations about this, it seems like it might be a bit of a slippery slope (i.e. might be expanded to any non-notable organisation).  PJvanMill ) talk ( 10:37, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment The edit notice on this page admonishes us to consider redirect is an alternative to deletion. The "lowest level locality" has long been judged a suitable redirection target for schools, as documented in the WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES section of the explanatory supplement to deletion policy. The guidelines for writing about settlements encourage having an education section. There is one in Kadamtali Thana, and it lists this college among others. Ideally there would be sparkling prose about the colleges, but it's a stub. If we delete, and a reader searches for "A. K. High School and College", they will get two results: Kadamtali Thana and List of schools in Bangladesh. Leaving a redirect would have the benefit of taking the reader straight to the page with the most info about their search term, even if today that info is only the locality where the college is located and the names of other colleges in the area. --Worldbruce (talk) 01:41, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
 * The SCHOOLOUTCOMES page itself points out that the RFC that stopped secondary schools from being automatically notable also added SCHOOLOUTCOMES to Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions because it "promotes circular reasoning". I did consider redirecting but rejected your original target for the reasons I gave above.  Your amended target, however, is more acceptable. SpinningSpark 06:42, 9 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Changing to redirect per WorldBruce's amended target. did you miss that the target had been changed or are you still at delete? Spinning<b style="color:#4840A0">Spark</b> 06:30, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
 * who also !voted after the change of target.<b style="background:#FAFAD2;color:#C08000">Spinning</b><b style="color:#4840A0">Spark</b> 06:33, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment Thank you for the ping, Spinningspark. Indeed, SCHOOLOUTCOMES itself makes it clear that we should not lean on it for an AfD decision. With the new target and Worldbruce's above comments, I will change my !vote to redirect to Kadamtali Thana. Modussiccandi (talk) 08:58, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Kadamtali Thana. As above, thanks for the ping, SpinningSpark. MrsSnoozyTurtle 10:08, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
 * ...and thank you for the coolest username I've see this year. <b style="background:#FAFAD2;color:#C08000">Spinning</b><b style="color:#4840A0">Spark</b> 19:13, 9 October 2021 (UTC)


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