Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/ABC Idents


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Delete The Land 16:19, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

ABC Idents
This a gallery of various ABC logos. Apart from the obvious fair use problems such an article creates, there really is nothing here to substantiate its existance. I am recommending delete under WP:NOT. --Hetar 07:48, 4 September 2006 (UTC) Speedy delete as a violation of copyright policy and a article with no context. GRBerry 02:44, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep. Given the importance of ABC, I appreciate having such a reference page, that helps for example in dating old recordings (wish I had something like that for RTL). Fair use should not be a problem, as long as ABC does not attempt to market a compilation of its logos. --DrTorstenHenning 08:45, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete, TV-logo-cruft. Kirjtc2 10:50, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Strong delete as a gallery of fair use images with no encyclopedic content. A releted article managed to survive an AfD in the past, but was deleted anyways for the same reason. —Whomp t/c  17:08, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
 * What's the point of this discussion if an article can come up with a consensus to keep, only to be unilaterally deleted? Is spending our afternoon trying to reach consensus on AfD a waste of time? Williamborg (Bill) 21:14, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
 * It's a waste of time if one's arguments are in favour of violating our copyright policies. Our copyright policies are Foundation issues and non-negotiable.  If you want to make an argument that this article should be kept, show that there's an encyclopaedia article here.  Here's a hint: Without the images, this article has no content whatsoever.  It doesn't even tell us which ABC it is about.  It has no context.  It is speedily deletable on two grounds, and a gross violation of the fair use policy (which is based upon the foundation that the fair use is allowable for "critical commentary and analysis" &mdash; an article with zero text contains no commentary or analysis).  The best approach to any sort of article such as this is to write all of the text first, and only then add the images.  Deleting this, so that Wikipedia doesn't continuously violate copyright until someone gets around to writing such an article, is a good start. Uncle G 01:51, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.