Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/ABDO Publishing Company


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 04:46, 13 July 2019 (UTC)

ABDO Publishing Company

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I am unable to find evidence that this organization meets WP:GNG or WP:NCORP. The creator is also a blocked sockpuppet. My PROD was contested on the grounds that there were many incoming links; however, those links are mostly from this page is linked within a reference. I therefore stand by my rationale. Delete. Vanamonde (Talk) 20:36, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 20:53, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Minnesota-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 20:53, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. North America1000 16:13, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment - I beleive links from references are valuable to readers and they will become red if this is deleted. Establishing notability of media companies is difficult because they are not so motivated to cover each other. I don't usually win these arguments but I still believe the resulting redlinks are an overall loss for our readers. ~Kvng (talk) 17:02, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep per the WP:GNG. It was the main sponsor of a Guinness World Record breaking event as noted by The Chicago Tribune. The Mankato Free Press had some rather significant coverage of it and its facilities in an article where it said that ABDO publishing "may be familiar to many." Their series of presidential biographies was picked up and included in  The New Yorker analysis of how educational books are describing Donald Trump. Their decision to change the name of one series in response to a reader letter garnered a good deal of coverage in both Mercury News and The Guardian, both of which discuss the publisher itself to a significant extent. They have also published children's books on Black Lives Matter and #MeToo that have generated a fair bit of coverage both of the books and of the publisher in The Twin Cities Daily Planet, Pacific Standard, and the Minnesota Star Tribune. There are at least three and up to five sources that I'd say are significant, independent, reliable secondary sources. In my opinion the article passes the letter of the GNG, but I think it most obviously passes the spirit of WP:N: has the world outside Wikipedia taken notice of it? I think the answer is obviously yes, so keep. Wugapodes [thɑk] [ˈkan.ˌʧɹɪbz] 22:43, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment The criteria for notability is not "coverage" or "mentions in the press". The coverage must be significant and the content itself must contain independent analysis/opinion/etc on the company. The Chicago Tribune reference is a mere mention-in-passing and fails WP:CORPDEPTH. The Mankatofreepress is churnalism and based on an interview with the founder and fails WP:ORGIND. The New Yorker reference is a mere mention-in-passing and fails WP:CORPDEPTH. The Mercury News and Guardian articles are also references-in-passing and fail WP:CORPDEPTH. The rest are also mere mentions-in-passing with no information on the company itself and they fail WP:CORPDEPTH. Not a single reference meets the criteria for establishing notability.  HighKing++ 13:34, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 02:49, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment Somewhat confusingly, the current subject of the article (ABDO Publishing Company) is just one of the several divisions of the ABDO company (listed here). Perhaps this should be moved to ABDO to reflect the name of the entire company rather than just one of its divisions. IntoThinAir (talk) 12:19, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete I am unable to locate a single reference that meets the criteria for establishing notability. None of the references in the article itself or provided above meet the criteria and nothing suitable could be found by searching. Topic fails GNG and WP:NCORP.  HighKing++ 13:34, 8 July 2019 (UTC)


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