Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/AIR Faizabad (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Vanamonde (talk) 17:44, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

AIR Faizabad
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Relist following a no-consensus closure; the entire original discussion consisted of one keep vote that was based on a flawed argument, one delete vote that explained why the keep argument was flawed, and two no-vote comments that did nothing to resolve the flaw. The problem here is that one of the core notability criteria that a radio station has to pass to qualify for its own article is that it originates at least a portion of its own programming schedule in its own local studios -- but the keep vote simply assumed that broadcasting works the same way the world over as it does in Canada and the United States, which isn't necessarily true because in many countries, including India, a radio "network" can be simply a bunch of relay transmitters with one common programming feed and no local programming breaks. So the notability test for a radio station is not passed just by using the word "affiliate", it's passed by showing reliably sourced evidence that the station actually produces some local programming -- but the only source being cited here at all is the station's directory entry in the network's own self-published frequency list, not anything that provides an answer to the question of whether this station produces any original programming or not. And since one of the other core criteria that a radio station has to meet to qualify for a standalone article is that its meeting of the other three criteria is reliably sourced, this is failing that one too. No prejudice against recreating a redirect to All India Radio once this is deleted, but it should still be deleted first as there's no value in retaining its edit history. Bearcat (talk) 23:59, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Radio-related deletion discussions. KCVelaga (talk) 03:33, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. KCVelaga (talk) 03:33, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 02:40, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Redirect to All India Radio. There's no possible content through reliable sources such that a meaningful article can be written that doesn't just read "[radio station] is a radio station that broadcasts in [broadcast area] with a frequency of [this many] Mhz". There does not need to be hundreds of stubs that only read as such. A table listing All India Radio's translators should also be made as per WP:BROADCAST.— Mythdon ( talk  •  contribs ) 06:49, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete--Fails WP:GNG by a mile or so.
 * All India Radio/Aakashvani follows a three-tier-broadcast system.The third tier comprises of local stations, whose programs are mainly transmitted over FM band and which claims to serve small communities, showcase local culture and broadcast area specific programs for the benefit of the community.The programming is flexible and spontaneous and the stations function as the mouth piece of the local community. There are currently 86 local stations and AIR Faizabad is one of them.
 * That claims one of the core notability criteria that a radio station has to pass to qualify for its own article is that it originates at least a portion of its own programming schedule in its own local studios ought to indicate keeping this article.But, my personal experience tells me that the local radio stations hardly fulfills their presumed role in any conceivable manner and they mostly serve as relay-transmitters of the regional feed produced by the concerned second-tier-station.All originality of content, in practicality,  terminates with the second tier.
 * Also, I can guarantee that such local third-tier stations doesn't manage to retrieve any coverage in regional sources of Indian scape. &#x222F; WBG converse 06:27, 18 October 2018 (UTC)


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