Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/AMSA Convention


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Stifle (talk) 08:53, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

AMSA Convention

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Contested PROD: Non notable student conference. Written like an advertisement. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 11:55, 4 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Article comments on the largest student gathering in the Southern hemisphere, and the largest gathering of medical students in Australia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.179.248.150 (talk) 12:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC) — 124.179.248.150 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * I feel that due to the size and reputation of the event that it meets notability guidelines. What edits would qualify it to not be an advertisement? I am not sure how to edit the article so it sounds like less of an advertisement.Amuse88 (talk) 12:31, 4 August 2009 (UTC) — Amuse88 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Your feeling is irrelevant. Wikipedia does not work on "feeling"s.  Notability requires the existence of multiple independent sources, documenting the subject in depth, by people with good reputations for fact checking and accuracy.  You much cite such sources for this, and every, case.  Nothing less will do.  Feelings are irrelevant.  Sources! Sources!  Sources! Uncle G (talk) 18:41, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions.  -- – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 14:28, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - Google news search results in one 200-word news article from an independent source. Its not enough. The general google hits are mostly lacking in independence or are merely passing references or directory entries. Interestingly the identically named American convention gets even less coverage. dramatic (talk) 00:16, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions.  —Grahame (talk) 01:21, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep More articles have been included in the latest revision. 124.179.248.150 (talk) 06:49, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - Large conference with long history - shouldn't be too hard to find some 3rd party sources (some have been added already - this is probably already enough to satisfy the GNG). I'm surprised that AMSA itself doesn't have an article, but that shouldn't mean this one is inherently NN. Keep and improve rather than delete. --Yeti Hunter (talk) 22:34, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Suggest refocus - sufficiently sourced and apparently notable enough that deletion seems a poor idea, but once material that isn't so notable or unlikely to be sourced is removed (are sports day and pub crawl details necessary and/or verifiable?) there isn't so much here; it would make a degree of sense to refocus this into an article on the Australian Medical Students' Association which would just so happen to have substantial coverage of the convention, and would need expansion of the non-convention details. If such an article existed, I'd suggest merging this into it, but there isn't, which is why I'm suggesting a refocus. Incidentally, at the very least this does require a renaming for disambiguation: the American Medical Student Association (another AMSA) has a comparably important convention, so I would suggest Australian Medical Students' Association Convention if there isn't traction to refocus this article on the association itself. TheGrappler (talk) 02:49, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. With content like "Pub Crawl" and "Sports Day" sounds like nothing more than a uni students pissup. Certainly not notable. WWGB (talk) 05:27, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Lacks the kind of in-depth coverage in independent sources needed to meet WP:N Nick-D (talk) 06:22, 9 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete there is some coverage in 3rd party sources but not the kind of focused coverage general notability guidelines insist on RadioFan (talk) 17:42, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Large event with long history - 50 years' worth. Considerable academic focus. Possible refocus to encompass Australia Medical Students' Association as a whole? Royal flush00 (talk) 00:51, 10 August 2009 (UTC) — Royal flush00 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.