Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/AM PM Travel


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Rlendog (talk) 20:08, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

AM PM Travel

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This article has recently become the target of some sort of struggle to drastically alter its content based on some as-yet unspecified legal issue. Legal issues aside, neither the original version nor the version as edited by an obvious WP:COI editor references any reliable sources to indicate that this local bus company meets WP:ORG. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 11:06, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

The statements written are not true. Sorry, but I set up the company and am the mouth piece. the original article is misleading and the subject of vicious bullying of family members. Names, dates and vehicles are wrong. WikiDan61 keeps asking for authorities but is unable to produce his own. I speak first hand, whereas everything else is hearsay. I am a champion for freedom of information but only when it is the truth and when no harm is caused. Children are being bullied and it is causing serious distress and harm. the police are the next stage but in the interim this page should be deleted! No prejudice or harm will be made to members of the public if it is removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Manveer-ampm (talk • contribs) 11:54, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Manveer-ampm, Wikipedia has a low tolerance for legal threats and unadmitted conflict of interests and paid editing are not acceptable standards on Wikipedia. Regards, Whenaxis (contribs) DR goes to Wikimania! 22:08, 29 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment Sadly, "first hand" accounts are not considered reliable sources. Since there is practically nothing to be found about this company in said reliable sources, it should be deleted.  If Manveer can provide citations to such reliable sources, he is welcome to do so, but his own first hand knowledge is not going to suffice.  WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:10, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment on your Comment User:Manveer-ampm actually says "this page should be deleted". So far we all seem to agree. Secondarywaltz (talk) 15:17, 29 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 15:02, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 15:03, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 15:07, 29 March 2012 (UTC)


 * No !vote yet, but some info for anyone looking at this. The article at present contains no sources whatsoever, because they were all removed by Maveer-ampm as part of the ongoing dispute. Previous versions included this industry piece about the company and this link about an award that one of their management team was nominated for. There's also this local news story about an attempt by a former employee to launch a successor company, and two bits of fairly brief coverage in Buses Magazine from 2009/10. I'll leave it to those less involved with this page to decide if that's enough to meet WP:CORP or not, noting in passing that Speedwellbus convincingly survived an AfD based on a similar set of sources. Alzarian16 (talk) 20:57, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Comments on Alzarian's sources -- if I had felt that the prior available sources were sufficient, I wouldn't have nominated for deletion. The first ref Alzarian provides is not an "industry piece" but rather a press release in which the company is announcing its new service.  The second source indicates that the company's CEO was nominated for (not won) a relatively minor local business award.  Winning the award would probably not have been sufficient to have the CEO's bio pass WP:BIO, so why should the nomination be considered sufficient to bolster the notability of his company?  The other coverage amounts to "mention in passing" at best.  WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 21:11, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Aargh, sorry about that. I hadn't seen the web address at the base of the copied press release (that site also writes a lot of its own content, and the press release was neutral enough that I mistook it for one of those). Delete then. Alzarian16 (talk) 10:45, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete - Appears to fail notability. - Burpelson AFB ✈ 22:42, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete This appears to be a NN bus company. The infobox says it became defunct in 2011.  Is this correct? If so it survived a mere three years.  Editing by employees is unacceptable, as it is liable to lack PNOV; likewise WP:ATTACK editing.  The attackers should be the subject of administrative action.  Peterkingiron (talk) 18:52, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
 * delete per Burpelson AFB. S.G.(GH) ping! 19:07, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete This fails the notabality test and its best we get rid of it before the COI editor returns to edit waring from a meatpuppet account.Andrew Kurish (talk) 23:43, 4 April 2012 (UTC)


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