Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/AN/CYZ-9


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The result was merge to NSA encryption systems. Liz Read! Talk! 21:54, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

AN/CYZ-9

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Subject fails WP:GNG. Previously PRODed, then dePRODed because it "describes an important example of state level security by NSA". Yet a WP:BEFORE search brings less than two pages of passing mentions, primary sources and WP clones.  Billets Mauves €500 20:42, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete non notable, could be a few lines in another article maybe. Oaktree b (talk) 21:35, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of military electronics of the United States : non notable portion of an army thing. The article title is wrong too; it should be AN/CSZ-9 per the source cited in the article and a comparison of google results between the two terms ("AN/CYZ-9" produces wiki clones and pages that probably took info from the wiki page, "AN/CSZ-9" produces army documents). It should redirect there because it contains short descriptions of electronics which could be useful to some readers; deleting the page wouldn't give any information or usefulness at all (its description there could also be expanded by a handful of words). If the outcome of this discussion is a redirect, I favor moving first then redirecting (not moving now because I don't want to try to break scripts or something). — Danre98 ( talk ^ contribs ) 13:01, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Update: Not sure how to classify my reccomendation, but I support letting Arnold move content around (even if they don't have the time for it right now). — Danre98 ( talk ^ contribs ) 22:06, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge to Hardware random number generator, with corrected title, as an example of NSA practice.--agr (talk) 15:46, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for commenting, but I'm not sure a merge is appropriate into that page. While AN/CSZ-9 is a hardware RNG, having a paragraph about it would distract from the topic more broadly. In addition, I'm not sure that it's a prominent example of a hardware RNG (so writing a lot of content about AN/CSZ-9 would be putting too much emphasis on it). It's also not currently mentioned in the body, though a mention could be added to Random numbers are also used for non-gambling purposes, both where their use is mathematically important, such as sampling for opinion polls, and in situations where fairness is approximated by randomization, such as military draft lotteries and selecting jurors. Questions that need answered in my view for a merge are 'why Hardware RNG is an appropriate place for a merge' and 'where specifically would content go in the article'. — Danre98 ( talk ^ contribs ) 19:32, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Perhaps NSA encryption systems might be a better merge target. There are several small articles that have recently been PRODed that could fill out a section on NSA key management there, this included.--agr (talk) 22:58, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm not opposed to that; that sounds like it could be a good idea. — Danre98 ( talk ^ contribs ) 00:57, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you. If there is no further objection, I propose to do that and also make similar merges to KSV-21, KOV-21 and U-229, which were recently PRODed and have similar issues. I don't expect to get to it before next week.--agr (talk) 15:34, 30 August 2022 (UTC)


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