Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/ANGEL Learning (2nd nomination)


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The result was   no consensus.  MBisanz  talk 22:42, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

ANGEL Learning
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Privately held company, fails WP:ORG--coverage that is documented appears to be non-independent and/or non-reliable, focusing on company products. Previously deleted as advertising in 2005, relisting for AfD on presumption that speedy may be declined due to the passage of time. Jclemens (talk) 23:01, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. Impressive amount of effort expended on spam. --Quartermaster (talk) 23:06, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions.   —Jclemens (talk) 23:07, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions.   —Jclemens (talk) 23:10, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Another editor nom'd this as a G4 speedy, which I declined, as the current version is not substantially the same as this one. (It's close, but there's been an attempt to address the sourcing and notability issues.)-- Fabrictramp |  talk to me  23:14, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * ( Actually, that was me, too) Jclemens (talk) 23:27, 6 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete as the "improved" article stills reads like a CV for investors. Remove all the self-prasing blurbs about their product line and the products-in-development and it would be more encyclopedic.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 21:26, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Don't Delete as the company is a notable one in the educational e-learning space. The links provide evidence of this company's notability. 1) Major companies provide content or integrations to their main product: Houghton Millflin, Pearson Education, and Wiley. 2) The company has been named a company to watch by the state of Indiana. 3) Michael Feldstein (a noted e-learning expert) estimates their market share has gone from 5% to 9% in a single year and the Kelly School of Business has recognized their growth as well. 4) Their main product has recieved two CODiE Awards, signficant recognition in the technology space. 5) Their products have been covered in main educational publications: Campus Technology and T.H.E. Journal. I've done some editing to help this entry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheFezOn (talk • contribs) 13:24, 8 October 2008 (UTC)  — TheFezOn (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Delete - Awards are nice but don't represent significant coverage to me. Otherwise their products seem unremarkable for a keep. --147.70.176.164 (talk) 22:38, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Don't Delete Distance learning and virtual education is one of the fastest growing educational movements in the country. While Blackboard is the biggest, ANGEL, Desire2Learn, and eCollege are all important products in this category. If ANGEL is deleted, so should Desire2Learn and eCollege. They are all, however, notable products and recognized in the educational market as important products. The CODiE awards are the "academy awards" of the software market, important designations as the best of in a given category. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dcapitald (talk • contribs) 12:23, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. Article is clearly too promotional, but I think there has been enough small coverage pieces to establish weak notability. Tan   &#124;   39  18:59, 11 October 2008 (UTC)


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