Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/AOA Black


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. No consensus for a particular action has emerged in this discussion. North America1000 04:55, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

AOA Black

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Not notable for a separate article as they have only one release with the information covered in the history section of the article AOA.  Rocky smile 11 (talk) 03:16, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Random86 (talk) 03:23, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Korea-related deletion discussions. Random86 (talk) 03:23, 24 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. They only have one release so far and there isn't enough information for a separate article. This isn't like Girls' Generation-TTS, who have multiple very successful releases. Random86 (talk) 03:46, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete as nothing suggesting better for the necessary notability improvements. SwisterTwister   talk  07:07, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep I think that this article have to keep. AOA is famous in korea and also famous k-pop singer. so each member of AOA has notability for Wikipedia. it is also AOA unit : AOA Black, AOA Cream, and AOA White.--Berlinuno (talk) 00:33, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
 * , notability is not inherited. That's why Youkyung and Chanmi don't have articles, even though they are members of AOA. Random86 (talk) 01:32, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep It is stated in Notability (music) that a band needs to have a single or album on any country's national music chart. With their debut single, Moya, hitting the Gaon Music Chart and Korea K-Pop Hot 100, they're worthy enough to be called "notable" and have their own article.Igetitcrackinlikebagbag (talk) 13:23, 6 May,2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, &mdash; Music1201  talk  02:14, 2 May 2016 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 17:03, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Reluctantly re-listing this for a third time: further debate would be beneficial for this AfD discussion. st170e talk 17:37, 21 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Merge with parent group AOA article. This subgroup doesn't appear notable enough to warrant a page on its own, and like its "sister" subgroup AOA Cream, it would benefit the reader more if they weren't looking through 3 different pages about what is essentially the same group of musicians. DeviantAttitude (talk) 22:28, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Merge with only one release, and no talk of a future one, it not only seems unnecessary to give aoablack a separate article, but it also seems like people will just forget the sub unit ever existed if it's not put on the group's main page.Peachywink (talk) 05:29, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, st170e talk 17:37, 21 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Reluctantly Keep. The most sensible thing is to merge all "sub-units" on the same page. But it would be inconsistent to leave the other one and delete this one, if they had a single on the charts. Someone could go ahead and merge them all, after this discussion closes, though it will probably get reverted by whomever it is that's being paid to promote them. How many times can a band have a "comeback" in one year? What is a "single album"? I don't get it. -- IamNotU (talk) 19:02, 21 May 2016 (UTC)
 * , I doubt anyone is being paid here. The page creator is a K-pop fan who has created many articles, some on non-notable topics, and all unreferenced. A single album is a CD single and all promoted releases are called comebacks in South Korea. Random86 (talk) 21:57, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Sorry. The K-pop industry is a legendary promotional machine, and I'd be surprised if they didn't have some paid editors on here. But I don't have any evidence that any are involved in this article, so it probably wasn't an appropriate comment. Some of the language in the AOA articles does sound a little promotional and advertising-like though. I supposed it's to be expected, given the subject. -- IamNotU (talk) 14:59, 24 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep per Igetitcrackinlikebagbag comment. Donottroll (talk) 19:38, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Merge, per previous comments. I don't think AOA Cream merits its own article either; they're essentially one-single project groups. Yannaynay (talk) 21:47, 23 May 2016 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.