Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/ASCRS


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep per WP:SNOW. Now that both articles have been created, there's consensus that this is a useful disambiguation page. -- Tavix ( talk ) 19:37, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

ASCRS

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DAB page with two items. American Society of Colon and Rectal Surgeons is mentioned on the colorectal surgery page in an external link but is not actually discussed at all. The American Society of Cataract and Refractive Surgery is not mentioned at all on the linked page in its entry, eye surgery. DAB pages are supposed to help people navigate to pages where the title of the DAB page could be intended. In this case neither page discusses the organizations that could be called ASCRS so there is no need for this DAB page. ~ GB fan 10:33, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
 * My nomination reasons no longer apply. ~ GB fan 21:33, 16 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep and create the articles. Medical societies with thousands of members are generally notable entities. I have started Draft:American Society of Colon and Rectal Surgeons and Draft:American Society of Cataract and Refractive Surgery. bd2412  T 13:46, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep (1) for the same reason mentioned above by bd2412 and (2) equally because even as currently constructed, the page serves a valid disambiguating purpose for Wikipedia users. If they search for "ASCRS", they will learn what the 2 meanings are (a society for colorectal surgery and a society for eye surgery), thus disambiguating the intended meaning; and if anyone anywhere on Wikipedia writes " ASCRS " without stopping to think to clarify their own meaning (this type of thing happens a lot; it's part of why DAB pages are important), the DAB page will handle the click-through on that ambiguous link and allow the user to quickly and painlessly come away with a perfectly clear understanding of what could have been meant and what probably was meant in their instance. Lise-lyse (talk) 16:38, 13 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Although I stand by point number 2 above, I also realize that probably GB fan's concerns would be better allayed if the two society articles existed. Thank you, bd2412, for starting drafts. I will plan to be bold soon and create those two in the main namespace. All the better if you beat me to it. Thank you both. Lise-lyse (talk) 16:44, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Disambiguations-related deletion discussions. North America1000 21:35, 13 May 2017 (UTC)

*Delete (unless articles are created) Thanks, for offering to create the articles, I haven't looked into it but there's a good chance they are notable. As it stands, this dab is not just useless but misleading. Readers would arrive at the dab, click on the link which looks best, look through article for information, find there is no mention of the organisation in the article, and then realise they've wasted several minutes of their life. Neither entry is valid, as they have no articles or meet MOS:DABMENTION. Boleyn (talk) 08:17, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
 * re: "unless articles are created". Cheers! bd2412  T 21:03, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep per bd2412 . Mention of the American Society of Colon and Rectal Surgeons occurs in at least the following articles: Colorectal surgery, AKM Fazlul Haque (surgeon), and Rectal prolapse. Mention of the American Society of Cataract and Refractive Surgery occurs in at least the following articles: Ophthalmology, Cataract surgery, Stephen Updegraff, Marguerite McDonald, and LASIK.  Even as only stubs  bd2412's  entries will prove useful. --Bejnar (talk) 16:31, 14 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep when the two articles have been created in main space. Pam  D  21:36, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
 * And thanks to for creating American Society of Cataract and Refractive Surgery: one down, one to go.  Pam  D  21:39, 14 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Update: Thanks everyone for contributing. Thanks to various users' efforts, both organizations have articles now. AFAICT the tag can be removed from the DAB now; correct? Lise-lyse (talk) 22:07, 16 May 2017 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.