Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/A Canticle for Leibowitz Latin translations


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Keep merge had previously been discussed and opposed, Transwiki is an option if its followed through then nominate again. Gnangarra 07:01, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

A Canticle for Leibowitz Latin translations

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Listcruft, fancruft. At the least merge with A Canticle for Leibowitz Latin translations. Qu e ntin Smith 08:19, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge with itself.....? ChrisTheDude 08:27, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Tentative keep...the book is a science fiction classic, and this list could actually enhance a reader's appreciation. Merge might be the way to go. Rhinoracer 10:14, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - an SF classic yes but this is clearly indiscriminate information. The weblink that this is from (http://www.loyno.edu/~gerlich/315Canticle.html) can be used as an external link the the A Canticle for Leibowitz article if needed. - Peripitus (Talk) 10:37, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep - a good resource for understanding an SF classic. It is ancillary to the main article A Canticle for Leibowitz; it belongs in a breakout article to keep the main from becoming too technical for the casual reader, not to mention meaningless to someone who has not yet read the novel. The external link is not to a Wiki and the data there, some of which is incorrect or misleading, cannot be improved. As to the charge of fancruft, if Lord of the Rings can have ancillary articles like Gandalf, then surely CfL can have an ancillary article too. As to the charge of listcruft, this is not a list just for the sake of a list, but a provider of valuable information to those who do not read Latin. Rwflammang 11:48, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Transwiki to Wikiquote. A Canticle for Leibowitz is certainly a notable book, and these translations seem to be a worthy assist to its readers, and explain the allusions being made.  Still, this is a list of quotations, not really an encyclopedia article, and this article has somewhat fewer ambitions than, say, a guide to Finnegans Wake.  (I would recommend keep though, if the translations and explanations of the allusions would be lost because of too zealous reformatting to conform to standard templates in Wikiquote.) - Smerdis of Tlön 14:44, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Strong Merge. I've thought about this, and re-read the A Canticle for Leibowitz article. It could well benefit from the inclusion of this list. Make it so!
 * Further thinking leads me to conclude that the characterisation of this article as 'fancruft' and 'listcruft' was deliberately insulting and/or callous. Let's put it down to a bad day for User:Quentin Smith. Rhinoracer 22:10, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
 * That sounds very much like ad hominem... --Qu e ntin Smith 20:33, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep -- this is just the kind of thing people come to Wikipedia for! I can't see why it's in table format though; perhaps that could be changed to make the phrases and their accompanying explanations more readable> Heian-794 16:21, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
 * WP:AON. --Qu e ntin Smith 20:33, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.