Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/A Ghost Story of Joseon Dynasty


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Shimeru (talk) 23:17, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

A Ghost Story of Joseon Dynasty

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Two sources cited, both effectively directories and neither reliable. The text gives no indication of significance. We already A7'd this once. Guy (Help!) 12:23, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 19:56, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep A film directed by Shin Sang-ok is not "significant"? You've got to be kidding me. The KMdB "not reliable"? It's run by the South Korean government. Speedy close and nominator needs to learn something about Korean cinema before making such reckless AfDs. Article needs work. Dekkappai (talk) 21:10, 28 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Comment Here is an article on the film at Cine21, KMdB lists a 2000 article in The Dong-a Ilbo related to the film (근대성의 유령들'/영화는 시대를 말한다 / 동아일보), and, obviously, there would have been press coverage in Korean papers in 1970 on a film by such a major director, but we don't have access to them... I'd do something on the article, but I'm busy on other projects, and, in a way, I'd almost like to see this go through as a delete so I can use it as a perfect example of the cultural myopia and bias with which the AfD process all too often helps infect Wikipedia... Dekkappai (talk) 22:08, 28 March 2010 (UTC)




 * Keep A film by notable Korean filmmaker Shin Sang-ok is an assertion of notability for the film in this instance. Language difficulties underscore the systemic bias inherant in our trying to English-source a pre-internet Korean film directed by a notable Korean filmmaker. Searches are further confounded due to the film title having several different English translations, both "literal" and "phonetic". I note that even then, it does have a few genre English-reviews under Ghosts of Chosun and quite a bit more in the Korean language under 이조괴담.  Best to get input from those able to translate those many results, rather that tossing the article becuase of WP:UNKNOWNHERE. The current title is the 1970 "informal title". I suggest the article be moved back to its original Ghosts of Chosun... the official (and somewhat more English-searchable) international title.  Of further note, while the film had theatrical release in 1970, it had a television premiere in 2003... 33 years later.  Someone in South Korea must have thought well enough of it to bring it back to life.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 22:17, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
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