Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/A Gothic Romance


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Speedy Delete as a mercy killing and author's request. I won't object if this is recreated if it meets the suggested notability guidelines. Yank sox  01:54, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

A Gothic Romance
Delete. A show that, by the article's admission, "has yet to be aired on public television or cable". Google search for "Cross: A Gothic Romance" brings up nothing. Notability is not established. Prod tag removed by author. ... disco spinster   talk  00:15, 15 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Response That's because it's just starting up. We are currently in progress of setting up our website and decided to give Wikipedia the first go so people would know what it's about before hand. This is a very large database and we knew our article interested many people by our fanbase on livedigital and myspace alone so we decided to create a comprehensive article showing the basis of the show before we air it that way people aren't left in the dark. And by fanbase we mean the people (well over a thousand) who have seen our earlier work when it was under the title "The Fallen" which we had to change because of issues with ABC Family over their new series. So again now that I have explained that please give me a valid reason as to why this should be deleted. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Shintou (talk • contribs).
 * The reason is in your very explanation, where you state that you "decided to give Wikipedia the first go". Wikipedia is not a publisher of first instance. Uncle G 01:22, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Can we just Speedy Delete this? The comment above sums it up fairly well, it's not an encyclopedia article, but a means to preview an up and coming production for the audience.  This isn't what Wikipedia is for. - Hahnch  e  n 00:28, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Do all of you disregard anything your members have to say and just point out anything you see unfit and prod at it until the world agrees or is there a special club wankers like that can join? Yes it is a form of a preview but there is basis behind it. The script has already been released and clips have been shown, and once the whole thing is finalized which will be soon, it will go straight to the internet. Now then I don't see the point of wasting everyone's time by deleting it right now when you could wait a few weeks and let us post up a full (over 40 minute) episode. It's not logical to waste all of that time. And if this is an advetisement then what the bleeding hell do you call you ctrl+alt+del article? It's basically the same exact thing except with pictures of the comic strip and by the end of the week we will have screen caps on it so what's the bloody difference? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shintou (talk • contribs)
 * Delete As advert and Wikipedia is not a webspace provider. Also violates WP:V. --TheFarix (Talk) 00:36, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Addendum There is absolutely nothing in the article that is of encyclopedic value. Also, this article runs afoul of not just the section of WP:NOT that I linked to easier, but several other sections including, publisher of original thought, indiscriminate collection of information, and crystal ball. --TheFarix (Talk) 01:08, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
 * No body said it was. Everything you are saying makes no sense. I'm not hosting anything here nor am I posting blogs or social articles. This is a valid article pretaining to a webseries and I don't understand the bleeding problem. Just tell me what the bloody hell I have to do to make it okay and I'll do it, until then you're just spouting off at the mouth for no reason and it's getting quite annoying. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shintou (talk • contribs)
 * Delete Wikipedia is for stuff that is already notable, not to help something become notable. TJ Spyke 00:45, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete Wikipedia is not a free forum to gain exposure for amateur fiction. Fan-1967 00:46, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete per Hahnch. --Aaron 00:47, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
 * But the thing you don't seem to realize is that it is notable just to a smaller audience who has already seen our previous work. If only large notability was accounted for then movies like Donnie Darko wouldn't be here either. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shintou (talk • contribs)
 * Even as a horrible showing by Hollywood standards, over 50,000 people saw Donnie Darko in the theatres. You have anything comparable? Fan-1967 00:56, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment If you want to know about the policies for articles like these, see WP:N. Wikipedia is a tertiary source which means that anything from primary sources are considered original research. Perhaps you can show some reliable third-party sources? And don't forget to sign your posts by using four tildes (~). Remember to stay cool. ColourBurst 00:49, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete being unaired television series. And Shintou, try reading the article on what is Wikipedia is not to understand why we have a problem with this article. Wikipedia is not a place to promote your creation or build up hype for it. This is an encyclopedia, not a web forum. NeoChaosX [ talk | contribs ] 00:50, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Fuck it just delete the bleeding thing. Thanks to those who were atleast courteous about it and sod off to those other poncey little wanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shintou (talk • contribs)
 * Speedy Sod off quickly please. Danny Lilithborne 00:58, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually we have between 3000-5000 who have seen our work alltogether so yes we have something somewhat comparable. And for the guy above me, does it just turn you on being an asshat or were you not loved as a child and obviously an adult. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shintou (talk • contribs)
 * Listen here, I have been a fan of this "Show" for as long as it has been just a thought. I loved it, and if you would like to see it, then wait till there new stuff coems out, and check it out. As far as being noteable, there are many people that have seen this, and like it. I don't see any fit reason to delet. please keep so that futer people may enjoy this. And no, this is not being used for advertisment in my opinion. It just give the fans, like myself, a broader sorce information. I ask you humbly, please keep. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.107.184.2 (talk • contribs)
 * Thanks Mate ^_^ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shintou (talk • contribs) 2006-09-15 01:08:53
 * Delete It may be really terrific, but until it creates a buzz independent of its creators, it's not suitable for an encyclopedia. I cleared up a few typos anyway. Dina 01:48, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.