Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/A History of the Modern World


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The result was speedy keep. Withdrawn. While there are content issues, WP:TEXTBOOKS is met. (non-admin closure) power~enwiki ( π, ν ) 21:21, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

A History of the Modern World

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A textbook, doesn't appear to meet WP:NBOOK. The obituary of the author references some newspaper articles that I can't find, but seem likely to be trivial. power~enwiki ( π, ν ) 20:21, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep. This book qualifies as a notable textbook under the criteria set forth at WP:TEXTBOOKS. The author's New York Times obituary makes the case succinctly: "This year, the ninth edition of Dr. Palmer's textbook, A History of the Modern World, was published, and overall sales are approaching two million. First published in 1950, it has been translated into six languages and is used in more than 1,000 colleges and universities as well as many high school advanced placement courses. . . .  In 1987, The New York Times put it on its list of the 19 classic textbooks of all time, in all disciplines. The Washington Post in 1996 called it 'the first book to be elevated to the textbook hall of fame.'" Likewise, his AHA obit reports: "Back at Princeton he completed his most influential work, a textbook on modern European history that became the gold standard for classroom books. First published by Alfred Knopf in 1950, A History of the Modern World was revised for subsequent editions in collaboration with Joel Colton. In the twilight of his unparalleled publishing career, Mr. Knopf named Palmer's textbook, in company with various literary giants, as one of his proudest accomplishments. Generations of college students valued its lucid prose, artful weaving of detail and argument, and (perhaps without realizing it) its humane liberal perspective. The textbook was translated into several languages, is still in print today, and has sold well over one million copies."  Now, what's needed to improve this article is more sources to further verify and elucidate this book's longstanding status.  The recently-added and lengthy index of the book's contents, on the other hand, is not really the sort of thing we tend to include in Wikipedia articles. --Arxiloxos (talk) 21:07, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I did not realize that there were separate guidelines for textbooks. It probably meets those, though I'm not certain enough to withdraw this AfD yet. power~enwiki ( π, ν ) 21:11, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 21:19, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
 * New York Times states "A History of the Modern World, was published, and overall sales are approaching two million. First published in 1950, it has been translated into six languages and is used in more than 1,000 colleges and universities as well as many high school advanced placement courses." (meets WP:NBOOK point 4) Besides not many historical authors gets a necrologue in the New York Times

(also meets WP:NBOOK point 5). R.R. Palmer also has written many other historical literature, , - quite a lot actually. And American Historical Association (of which Palmer has been President, apparantly) about this work states "A History of the Modern World was revised for subsequent editions in collaboration with Joel Colton. In the twilight of his unparalleled publishing career, Mr. Knopf named Palmer's textbook, in company with various literary giants, as one of his proudest accomplishments. Generations of college students valued its lucid prose, artful weaving of detail and argument, and (perhaps without realizing it) its humane liberal perspective. The textbook was translated into several languages, is still in print today, and has sold well over one million copies." And this imperative work of RR Palmer, must be put beyond any single doubts. Or in other words the, article as such meets WP:NBOOK and more. It can still be improved though. Please abort this awkward deletion matter. Boeing720 (talk) 21:30, 3 November 2017 (UTC)


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