Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/A Hopeless Motive


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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 08:20, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

A Hopeless Motive

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Fails WP:NBAND. MySpace is not a reliable source. There are not any WP:SECONDARY sources on the web, only list entries, self-published stuff and the band's own promotion. Nothing has been written in depth about the band by third parties. Binksternet (talk) 19:39, 22 January 2016 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — UY Scuti Talk  17:22, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.   Musa Talk  ☻ 21:25, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions.   Musa Talk  ☻ 21:25, 29 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete - Clearly none of this suggests even minimally better notability and coverage. SwisterTwister   talk  01:12, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep - I authored this page, and I can guarantee you it is not an advertisement as we have not been active since 2007. I maintained it as a memoir.  I plead that you give me a chance to find more relevant articles to support our history, as they are out there, but unfortunately most of them were in print rather than on the internet.  This would satisfy WP:NBAND and establish WP:SECONDARY sources, but will take me a bit of time as I am a working father of three.  Again, this is a factual article of historical events, and deleting it from Wikipedia would only decrease the amount of historical knowledge available to its users.  Monumentalbasser   talk  12:21, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
 * You used MySpace to support the statement that a particular performance is "commonly known" as the band's greatest. You need WP:SECONDARY sources for that, and more than one if you want to keep the article. Binksternet (talk) 05:15, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, and in that message I pleaded for time to gather those WP:SECONDARY sources so the page may be kept, but instead someone went ahead and deleted it, so oh well. Thanks... Monumentalbasser (talk) 18:44, 9 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete per the lack of significant coverage in Identifying reliable sources. The article contains two unreliable sources: http://www.myspace.com/ahopelessmotiveband and http://www.fm99.com/Homegrown/2868834. There is insufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow A Hopeless Motive to pass Notability, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Cunard (talk) 06:19, 6 February 2016 (UTC)


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