Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/A Little Bit Longer (song)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   redirect to A Little Bit Longer. PhilKnight (talk) 23:28, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

A Little Bit Longer (song)

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Fails WP:Music. Has not charted on any charts, and article has very little verifiable information. Save-Me-Oprah (talk) 13:08, 6 July 2008 (UTC)  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,&mdash; Maggot Syn 00:50, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  00:36, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete, article fails to establish notability as per WP:MUSIC.   Esradekan Gibb    "Talk" 01:25, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: I don't object in principle to having the article, but I very much doubt that this has been confirmed as a single. Everyking (talk) 08:23, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep: This is an upcoming single, to be released in August 2008, according to the music store, iTunes. There's references and sources for that in the article. And also, it has not been charted yet, because it hasn't been released yet. ♥, calliegal_x (talk) 05:09, 9 July 2008 (UTC)Calliegal
 * Delete. Unreleased single is not notable. Maybe once it's released, but right now it's very much in conflict with WP:CRYSTAL. Rwiggum  (Talk /Contrib ) 03:48, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.


 * Delete fails WP:MUSIC and WP:CRYSTAL. No Reliable sources to it's existence . While checking out the page before voting per my custom, I deleted vandalism three revisions deep by a random IP who proclaimed among other things that Robert Plant and 50 Cent would guest on the track. Doc StrangeMailbox Logbook 01:32, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep It is a scheduled release so WP:CRYSTAL doesnt apply. -- neon white talk 01:55, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh. Okay. Keep then. Billboard is indeed a reliable source. Doc StrangeMailbox Logbook 03:42, 13 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete Even though billboard has confirmed it, the song has not recieved any decent attention. Once it's released, this might change. Undeath (talk) 07:24, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Redirect To album until single is released. Shapiros10  contact me My work  13:53, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep per Neon white's reference above. Europe22 (talk) 19:24, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Redirect Although I realise that Billboard is a fairly credible source, it only lists a...well, listing. There's no date for release, there's no confirmation of where it'll be released, there's no mention of it being an official single release...etc etc etc.  As such, it only merits a redirect to the album until (if?) it gets confirmed as a released single. SKS2K6 (talk) 01:41, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: KEEP SKS2K6, it is an offical release, according to iTunes, where it'll be released in August. ♥, calliegal_x (talk) 05:35, 16 July 2008 (UTC)Calliegal
 * Comment: I see that it's being released to iTunes, but what I meant by "release" is official single release (that is, a release to radio). Nothing's notable about a song from an album being digitally released a week before the album. SKS2K6 (talk) 16:31, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment I think we should use common sense here, it's not predicting the future cause the release is scheduled and given the artist's popularily and the fact that previous singles from the same album like Burnin' Up charted pretty high in the Hot 100, i think the song will likely chart so it seems pointless to delete the article only to recreate it in a month or so. -- neon white talk 18:17, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: I do agree with your point, as I'm not arguing for deletion. However, is there enough substantial information to warrant a separate article?  "Burnin' Up" is an actual single; therefore, there's information on its creation, its background, its release, its chart positions, its reviews, etc.  Nowhere has it been confirmed that "A Little Bit Longer" will be an actual single; as far as I know, it (and the other songs being pre-released) are just album songs being released as teasers for the album.  As such, how much information will be on the separate page?  The best comparison I can make is to the soundtrack for High School Musical.  Although a lot of those songs charted, and charted well, there wasn't enough information to support a separate article (per its deletion discussion).  Only one ("Breaking Free") was an actual single.  Wikipedia's policy on song articles states that a "separate article is only appropriate when there is enough verifiable material to warrant a reasonably detailed article; articles unlikely ever to grow beyond stubs should be merged to articles about an artist or album."  This article's information is already on the album page.  And that's why I'm arguing for a redirect for now.  If it becomes an actual single, it can easily be undone, and the article history is preserved. SKS2K6 (talk) 18:39, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
 * billboard.com confirms it is a single to be released on August, 12, 2008. -- neon white talk 15:52, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
 * That's the link for the album, not the single. SKS2K6 (talk) 16:00, 17 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Redirect to A Little Bit Longer until it confirms notability as a single. The future release of this song has been confirmed, and thus I believe that it shouldn't be deleted at this point because most likely it will be notable — unlike a song that has already had its peak and doesn't really chart or establish notability, this has a decent chance of being at least somewhat successful after its release as a single. And of course, it has and will presumably receive more media coverage, so I doubt WP:RS will be a concern.  Jamie ☆ S93  01:11, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep if confirmed as a single. Certainly there's information available to write about the song. Everyking (talk) 08:33, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: Does an iTunes release automatically signify single release? Everywhere I've been reading, it seems to simply be a teaser for the actual album.  And keep in mind that the Billboard link that "confirms" the release is actually for the album. SKS2K6 (talk) 14:44, 18 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Redirect to album article, A Little Bit Longer. Note: being released as single, in of itself, does not warrant a separate article. --Wolfer68 (talk) 21:32, 19 July 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.