Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/A New Beginning (album)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Shimeru (talk) 23:06, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

A New Beginning (album)

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Non-notable album of non-notable songs from a non-notable music group. There is evidence it exists (and its PROD for lack of notability was removed on that basis), but that's not the WP:GNG standard. The only reviews are user-contributed (not "professional" per the infobox) and the songs and other bluelinks are generic terms or works by others rather than the actual ones by this group. DMacks (talk) 01:28, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete per rationale provided in PROD. NativeForeigner Talk/Contribs/Vote! 01:44, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

I agree that the album at this time is non-notable on the "internet" but I've heard several of these songs many many times on Australian radio in Sydney since December '09 (as have others by what I read on Rate Your Music). I have also had the pleasure of seeing the group live in Brisbane and the singer (Jim Hopkin) is an 84 year old classical tenor who's vocal range and delivery was very impressive for a man of his age. As I am new to Wikipedia I wonder if DMacks would advise if he thinks it would be better to research the group and create a page on the singers 64 years of contribution to music and then link this album (A New Beginning) to that page. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated to understanding how to properly contribute to this wonderful asset - Wikipedia!! David Longworth12:30, 6 April 2010
 * If the singer is personally notable, a page about him (including small sections about his major groups and other works) sounds like a fine idea. WP:BIO or WP:BAND are probably the most appropriate Wikipedia article guidelines for this type of topic. See also WP:RS and WP:V, the policies regarding evidence needed to support claims of being notable enough to keep an article. DMacks (talk) 03:29, 6 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 14:15, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete (without prejudice) - per precedent at the Albums Project there should first be an article about the artist (Generation Gap) which would have to pass the notability test. It probably would if the songs are bonafide hits on the Australian charts. I suggest that an interested person work on an article for the band. Album and song articles are the next step. D OOMSDAYER 520  (Talk|Contribs) 15:57, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.