Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/A Time for George Stavros


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect‎ __EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__ to Philip K. Dick bibliography is done, with the history preserved per the discussion. However if consensus emerges that Philip K. Dick is the better target, that can be done editorially. Star  Mississippi  13:53, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

A Time for George Stavros

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Article fails GNG with sole citation being a minor note in a biography. It's also an unpublished failed attempt at a book that didn't survive beyond a short synopsis, making it highly unlikely to ever achieve notability. Macktheknifeau (talk) 11:32, 5 April 2023 (UTC) Comment: could the information be merged into the main article on Philip K. Dick which has sections on his early writing and the various phases of his career? Elemimele (talk) 16:32, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Science fiction and fantasy-related deletion discussions. Macktheknifeau (talk) 11:32, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes, the text could be transposed. A lack of notability for an article on a subject doesn't prevent information within it being used on a page for a notable subject, and the requirements for an in-line citation or consensus on adding the line is significantly lower than requirements for a subject to have an article. Macktheknifeau (talk) 13:46, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 12:50, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:BOOKCRIT #5, and per my comment at WP:Articles for deletion/Nicholas and the Higs. Could possibly be merged into Humpty Dumpty in Oakland, since according to this Humpty Dumpty is a very close rewrite of George Stavros; or could be merged into a new article "Lost works of Philip K. Dick", as I suggested at the other AfD. Sojourner in the earth (talk) 21:38, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
 * "The five preceding criteria do not necessarily apply to books excluded by the threshold standards, and do not apply to not-yet-published books". A Time for George Stavros was unpublished (and never will be), and has no ISBN or catalogue in a national library, therefore Bookcrit #5 is irrelevant. I think merging into the Humpty book would be a good idea and would improve that article. Macktheknifeau (talk) 13:54, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Fair point, struck my keep !vote. I'm hesitant to formally propose a merge to Humpty Dumpty, since I think it would be less a merge and more a total rewrite of that article; so instead I suggest redirecting to Philip K. Dick bibliography for the time being, with no prejudice to the content being incorporated into another article in the future. Sojourner in the earth (talk) 16:54, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. North America1000 12:56, 12 April 2023 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.