Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/A Time to Live and a Time to Love


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus.  Sandstein  10:36, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

A Time to Live and a Time to Love

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 * A non-notable Soviet film.--RTY9099 (talk) 21:57, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Articles for deletion/Log/2018 December 14.  —cyberbot I   Talk to my owner :Online 22:07, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep. Appears to be a highly regarded Estonian film, would have had a cinematic release. --Michig (talk) 08:23, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Where is this written in the article?--RTY9099 (talk) 08:29, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. North America1000 22:25, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Estonia-related deletion discussions. North America1000 22:25, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete for failing WP:NFILM. I really thought I could find some good sources to rescue this one, it gets a ton of hits on Google when searching the Estonian name but there's just a few pages of listings on various Estonian film database sites and then the hits appear unrelated. Please ping me if someone is more successful. Ifnord (talk) 04:04, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 08:46, 21 December 2018 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   19:15, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep. The film was released by Tallinnfilm, which is Estonia's major film company, directed by a prominent Estonian director (Veljo Käsper), penned in part by prominent Estonian writer Enn Vetemaa, with music composed by Jaan Rääts, and starred prominent Estonian actors Ita Ever, Heino Mandri, Aarne Üksküla, and Mati Klooren. According to Eesti filmi andmebaas, it won several awards: Film Festival of Baltic States and Byelorussia: Best Art Director, Imbi Lind (1977), International Festival of Red Cross and Health Films: Best Actor, Heino Mandri (Varna, Bulgaria, 1977), and a 1977 Latvian Theatre Association Award for Successful Debut to actress Aīda Aara. I have yet to verify any of this, however. Obviously, the article needs better references and sourcing and is no more than a stub. I think smaller countries are often held to a more stringent standard on English Wiki when articles are created, particularly with older media, which is unfortunate. But, I do see the argument in this case, as little is written about the film and it has such a small digital presence. On a personal note (obviously, not sourceable), I have seen the film broadcast on ETV2. Also, the image on the article's page is wrong. That is a book by Russian author Valentin Rasputin and has no connection to the film or article (other than a similar title) and should be removed in either case. Cheers! ExRat (talk) 20:37, 31 December 2018 (UTC)


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