Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/A Very Christmas Story


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:42, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

A Very Christmas Story

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A film whose director is non notable: Articles for deletion/Dariusz Zawiślak. Cross-wiki spam based on primary sources (Original research) (Also created by ). Not notable per WP:NF. AntiCross (talk) 01:51, 27 April 2009 (UTC) 
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Poland-related deletion discussions.  —AntiCross (talk) 01:51, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.  —AntiCross (talk) 01:51, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete as non-notable. Very little info in article other than cast listing because references aren't available. Only 23 votes on IMDB, I know this is not a measure but if it were a high vote count it might indicate that I was overlooking something. Drawn Some (talk) 00:15, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
 * IMDB seems to be primarily English-speaking, though. Its suitability for assessing the notability of an untranslated foreign-language film is highly suspect.  Can we find some other way of showing it is notable/non-notable?  Perhaps a Polish IMDB equivalent?  -Moritheil (talk) 10:59, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep and find a Polish-reading wikipedian to translate those sources and these. Let's try to see if we can make this Polish film suitable for English wikipedia per WP:CSB. The director may be have suitable notability found here with some work.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 04:38, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman

(talk) 00:01, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment People, this was released in an English version in English-speaking countries. The popularity is up 95% on IMDB this week no doubt because people are checking it for this discussion. ZERO assertion of notability, importance, significance, etc. On what basis are you saying that it should be kept? Drawn Some (talk) 00:32, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
 * With respects, I can find no evidence that it was released in the US, or in English. Before I asked for input from a Polish laguage reading wikipedian, I had done a deep search. To what English speaking countries do yoy refer? If you can provide a link, it may help in finding further English sources.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 17:38, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Weak keep. I'm a Polish-reading Wikipedian, such as Michael has been looking for. Most of the sources found by the Google News search linked above are simply listings of where the film is being shown, but this article in Gazeta Wyborcza is about the production of the film, this one is about film's music and its composer and this interview with the screenwriter and lead actor focuses on this film. Not much, but I think that three articles in Poland's equivalent of The New York Times is enough for notability. There's also a section in this publication but I'm not sure if that really counts towards notability - it looks more like a print equivalent of IMDb. Phil Bridger (talk) 18:16, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you Phil. I knew somebody in these pages must be able to read Polish. Might you be so inclined as to add the sources? And perhaps that Polish film base for WP:V?  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 06:23, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
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