Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/A Wish for Wings (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete, same reasoning as Articles for deletion/Closetspace. --Core desat  03:52, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

A Wish for Wings

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Nominating in a package deal along with Closetspace. Both are non-notable webcomics by the same author. Articles have existed for over three years (!) without ever being sourced. SubSeven 10:38, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak delete. There certainly seem to be mentions of these all over the place, and so they could well be notable, but the article asserts no notability and I could not find any reliable, independent published sources. I am open to changing my vote if sources are found. J Milburn 12:27, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. There are several situations where the notability rules are inappropriate and are causing large amounts of valuable information to be deleted. Bands and webcomics are the ones I am most familiar with.  There are also repeated allegations by some that this author is being singled out over a disagreement over her past contributions to Texas highways. -- Strangelv 15:50, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Speedy Delete. I don't want them here, you don't want them here. Get them the hell off Wikipedia so I can be done with this place. Jenn Dolari 07:17, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. - Notable and encyclopedic - Alison✍ 14:27, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - If she doesn't want it here, I don't want it here. Krisorey 15:22, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete at Author's Request. Hey, like Jenn said, this less mention of her, the better. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.152.12.78 (talk • contribs)
 * Speedy Delete at Author's Request. Once again, the cliques and Wikimobs are grabbing their torches and trying to burn down the webcomics section. This is one webcomic you won't be able to burn down again. --JBladen 18:04, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. - Notable and encyclopedic. If this deserves to be pruned, man, wiki will need to get back to a size where it could be sold on a single dvd. An encyclopedy like wikipedia has to be comprehensive. If I can't find stuff like this here, where will I find it? --Svartalf 19:09, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment Presumably, you'd find it in a web directory, which Wikipedia is not. Please read WP:WEB for the notability criteria. SubSeven 20:09, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I find WP:WEB to be an excellent example of mass-market industrial age thinking that has no place on something as Internet oriented and community driven as Wikipedia (or for that matter, the 21st Century). -- Strangelv 18:34, 29 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete at Author's Request - Let's not have this page as yet another foothold for grudges. Deletion of Ms. Dolari's page would remove an important link from this page. Also, Ms. Dolari is weary of elitism and would prefer this article be gone. As a reader, I agree; a wiki cannot be all-inclusive, as that would require a level of self-management not possible in a human organization. If it is not being properly managed, I can see why she'd want to leave. Doc Mackie 20:32, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep - In my opinion the user SubSeven is biased against these Dolari-related wikis for some reason. He or she has already nominated this page for deletion once. The community decided it was relevant and to keep it. It is inappropriate for the same user to renominate for deletion. If the community really does feel these webcomics aren't noteworthy then someone less biased should nominate for deletion. Regarding notability criteria, these webcomics have been recognized by several cons including TrinocCon which have invited the writer to be on panels as a result of the notability of these webcomics. Clearly then their articles have a place here. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Structured spirits (talk • contribs) 16:53, 29 January 2007 (UTC).
 * http://www.trinoc-con.org/guest.php -- Trinoc 2006 featured guest list. I'm having trouble finding lists for previous years where Dolari is included, but I do know she's been featured at more than one. -- Strangelv 18:34, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
 * The previous guest list are gone (heck most of the website is gone). Here's the 2004 Webcomics Panel picture - http://www.trinoc-con.org/gallery/2004comicsPanels/Image17?full=1 .  The fat chick, top row, on the right.  If you go to ALBUM: PEOPLE you'll see me on panels, and subtitled as such.  Jenn Dolari 20:37, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment Say what??? No, I have not nominated this article twice.  I was not even on Wikipedia in 2004 when it was first nominated.  SubSeven 19:07, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment The previous deletion was done by User: RickK, not User: SubSeven. Jenn Dolari 20:37, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.