Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aaron Bay-Schuck


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The result was   delete. Courcelles 01:29, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

Aaron Bay-Schuck

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Sub-notable person.

This is the second version of this article. The first was PROD'd (with no objection) but the article was re-created, so here we are. According to this, that may have been at Mr Bay-Schuck's direction, so I suppose we have to kill this dead here.

Mr Bay-Schuck is a vice-president (a vice-president, not the executive vice-president) of a medium-size company. And that's it. He's neither more nor less notable than one of the vice-presidents at your local seven-branch bank.

I and another editor separately took the time to the refs for the last incarnation of this article, and came to similar conclusions (see the article talk page). Short version: two of the refs are no good for a BLP, the third may or may not be OK but anyway is just a bare list of credits, and the fourth (Billboard) is good. (The article's earlier incarnation had a Variety article instead of the Billboard piece; Variety is also a good source but that article had very little information about Mr Bay-Schuck.)

So the article rests entirely on the Billboard piece (it's here). Well, first of all, Billboard covers the music industry, in the same way that Conveyancer News (or whatever they have) covers the real estate law industry. It's not a general-interest publication, and any coverage here is a very far lower indication of general notability than would be similar coverage in the Los Angeles Times or whatever.

And even in that context, it's not a full article. It's one paragraph in something called "30 Under 30" where I infer that Mr Bay-Schuck is lumped in with 29 other up-and-coming junior executives in this particular industry. The article begins "Aaron Bay-Schuck has made a name for himself at Atlantic Records Group", and I suppose that's fairly accurate, and I consider it quite possible that the name of Mr Bay-Schuck has come to the attention of the senior executives at the very top of the heap at Atlantic Records.

But, you know, so what. Sure, it's A&R. And A&R is important. And Mr Bay-Schuck signs people, and that's important (imagine how embarrassed they'd be to produce a record and then find out the artist hadn't signed a contract). But reinsurance is important too, and I don't see articles about up-and-coming junior executives in the reinsurance industry.

Puff piece, vanity, conflict of interest, no article. Enough man-hours have been spend on this sub-notable person. Delete. Herostratus (talk) 00:17, 6 August 2011 (UTC) Herostratus (talk) 00:17, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 02:39, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 02:39, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - fluff about another corporate A&R guy who thinks he's Tha Man. Only notable if a "Zanz Kant Danz" was written about him; and it hasn't been. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  13:19, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
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