Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aaron Goodwin


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus.  Sandstein  17:48, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Aaron Goodwin

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Former agent for Lebron James, setting up an endorsement deal does not qualify for notability. No other notable info, works, news, thus any mention on Wikipedia would be an advertisement for a sports agent. Btl (talk) 22:25, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - many news links exist but they are all trivial coverage, thus failing WP:BIO. Kevin (talk) 05:54, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JForget  21:35, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 00:39, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Subject of several news articles, and mentioned in many others: Besides serving as James' first agent, Goodwin has represented Gary Payton, Dwight Howard , and Chris Webber , all of whom have been NBA All-Stars. There's nothing particularly advertorial about the article. Zagalejo^^^ 23:01, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment His notability in terms of client list is no different than every other large scale Agency. The Lebron James endorsement deals, and only because of James' age and hype/profile in high school, is the only "newsworthy" bit of info to distinguish this Sports Agent from many others.  Also, listing his past/present client roster in the article for notability, would eventually require a citation back to the Agent's Firm's website.  I think there needs to be more compelling examples of Notability. If not, this is covered by WP:NOTNEWS. Btl (talk) 04:05, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
 * It's not our job to determine whether or not someone is "important" enough for Wikipedia. We're just supposed to determine whether the subject has received enough attention from independent sources. I think Goodwin has. This Sports Illustrated article is primarily about Goodwin. The magazine considered him the eighth most influential minority in sports. I think that alone is enough to establish notability. This, this, and this are also primarily about Goodwin. In my experience with AFD, those four articles combined should be more than enough to keep the article. I'll note that a couple of similar articles, Rob Pelinka and David Falk, have achieved GA status. Someone could probably do the same with Goodwin's article. (By the way, Goodwin's clients are listed in many news reports. There is no need to cite his own website for anything like that.) Zagalejo^^^ 06:22, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions.  -- Cyber cobra  (talk) 05:28, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions.  -- Cyber cobra  (talk) 05:28, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Keep. Zagalejo has demonstrated that he passes WP:GNG. Location (talk) 01:03, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.