Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aaron Lawrence (actor)


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The result was delete.  Sandstein  18:37, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

Aaron Lawrence (actor)
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Fails WP:GNG and WP:ENT.

The article currently states that Mr. Lawrence revolutionised the field of male prostitution. That is puffery added by Benjiboi, an editor banned ten years ago for (among other things) promoting the pornography industry. I don't see it as a plausible claim of notability under WP:ENT.
 * The first reference is an essay by Bertram Cohler about men in the gay pornography industry who wrote memoirs. It does contain significant coverage of Mr. Lawrence, and I have no reason to think it unreliable; but WP:GNG requires more than one solid reference. (And the information about Mr. Lawrence is derived from his autobiographical writing, though the essay does contain independent commentary such as criticism of Mr. Lawrence's approach to commercial sex tourism.)
 * The second reference is a NSFW personal web page.
 * The third reference is a permanent deadlink; I think it's the same "about the author" blurb that appears on all of Mr. Lawrence's advice columns for OutUK (NSFW).
 * References 4-6 are more primary sources having to do with Mr. Lawrence's defunct NSFW websites.
 * Reference 7 is an award roster; please note that pornography awards don't count towards notability now that WP:PORNBIO has been deprecated.
 * Reference 8 is a puff piece interview/profile in the book Award-Winning Men: Up Close and Personal with Gay Honorees. The publisher is a vanity press.
 * Reference 9: I don't have access to Best of the Superstars : 2000 : The Year in Sex, but nothing about it makes me think it's an appropriate source for a biography of a living person.
 * Reference 10 is a directory listing on a prostitution website featuring anonymous user-submitted reviews.
 * Reference 11 is a forum post, ostensibly by Mr. Lawrence himself.
 * Reference 12 is another award roster.

I looked for additional sources: Here is another work by Bertram Cohler on gay autobiographies, with several brief mentions of Mr. Lawrence. Here is more trivial coverage (two sentences), also by Cohler. The book Sex Workers as Virtual Boyfriends (a first-person narrative about hiring prostitutes) includes a quotation from Mr. Lawrence and information about one of his books.. The Bay Area Reporter has run two routine announcements about his book promotion events:. His two self-published books received a review apiece in the Lambda Book Report. Cheers, gnu 57 19:44, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. gnu 57  19:44, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sexuality and gender-related deletion discussions. gnu 57  19:44, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
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 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 21:40, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been added to the WikiProject Pornography list of deletions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 21:41, 20 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete. Agree with detailed analysis, above, regarding lack of WP:SIGCOV. I was able to find the same single source as the nominator already discussed, above. Right cite (talk) 16:21, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
 * User indef blocked as suckpuppet. — HELL KNOWZ   ▎TALK 14:37, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per the very well reasoned argument of the nominator.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:38, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete agree with analysis of nom.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 10:41, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Neutral: per the nom's argument, there are 2 book reviews + independent coverage by Cohler. If I were an inclusionist I would argue for keeping. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  02:39, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. Nominator's assessment of reliable source coverage is correct. Fails WP:BASIC as reliable source coverage is insignificant.  Independent reliable sources also fail to support any claim of WP:ENT notability. • Gene93k (talk) 13:22, 27 November 2020 (UTC)


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