Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Abba Gumel


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (non-admin closure)  Ya  sh  !   03:02, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Abba Gumel

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Abba Gumel does not want his information on Wikipedia. He see it as a violation and will like the page deleted. At the appropriate time, he will setup a page as necessary. Osharomi (talk) 12:52, 21 December 2015 (UTC) Creating deletion discussion for Abba Gumel
 * Keep. Holder of a named chair at a major university, so meets WP:PROF. It is not the subject's choice whether or not they have an article and it is not in any way a "violation". -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:17, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete . I disagree with you Necrothesp, the fact that he is a holder of a named chair at a major university does not give you or anyone right to put his information on wiki. It is just a violation as I said.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Osharomi (talk • contribs) 16:08, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I think you'll find it's up to consensus among Wikipedia editors who or what has an article and not the subject. As long as the information is accurate there is no violation involved (whatever that may mean). Stating someone exists and who they are is not a violation. Striking your vote as nominator. -- Necrothesp (talk) 16:15, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Striking vote from nominator -- the nominator is presumed to already be voting for deletion. -- Michael Scott Cuthbert (talk) 20:14, 21 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete This is funny. I thought that is why Universities have webpages to handle information about Professors/Chairs. If I decided to take your picture with that of your family members from facebook and created a wikipage because I want to show that you exist (Would that be fine or be considered a violation).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Osharomi (talk • contribs) 18:12, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * (Striking second delete vote by same user). -- Michael Scott Cuthbert (talk) 20:07, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. clpo13(talk) 17:21, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Arizona-related deletion discussions. clpo13(talk) 17:21, 21 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Comment -- courtesy delete is allowed per WP:BIODEL -- this is definitely a pass of notability via WP:PROF by the named chair and certainly WP has the right to keep correct information online where there is no copyright violation (hence why you can't take someone else's photograph from facebook and pass it around, but you can take a photo that shows me in it and put it on the net.) But I think that this fits in with the non-public clause that allows for a deletion. However, we do not have a request from Abba Gumel himself, and this statement "At the appropriate time, he will setup a page as necessary" suggests that a deletion of this page will be replaced by a page without WP:NPOV. I think it will be a pain to keep up, not worth the effort of defending, and thus a delete is much easier; however, per precedent, this page is definitely a Keep however. -- Michael Scott Cuthbert (talk) 20:14, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete If it is about the fact that he holds the position of a named chair, then remove his name and use the named chair portfolio (with him holding it for now). A lot of holders of named chair at major universities are out there and they are not been profiled on wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Osharomi (talk • contribs) 22:01, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Striking fourth delete vote by nominator -- I'll ask this to be closed as a WP:POINT nomination if these repeated votes continue. -- Michael Scott Cuthbert (talk) 00:08, 22 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete as Abba Gumel is not a particularily notable person, I see no reason not to remove this page, if it is against their wishes to have one. EllsworthSchmittendorf (talk) 23:50, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * While it has an invalid rationale, this vote means that we can't speedy close the discussion. Nyttend (talk) 02:54, 22 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep. The holder of a named chair at a major state university in the USA is easily notable.  We could still delete on other grounds, as summarised at WP:TNT, but (1) that's for junk articles of various sorts, and this one is respectable, and (2) such a deletion doesn't address notability grounds, so anyone could create a new article on the guy immediately.  Nyttend (talk) 02:39, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:PROF (highly cited publications in a low-citation field) as well as #C5 (the named chair). The publication impact is borderline enough that I'd be willing to follow the subject's preference if notability were based only on it, but the named chair is unambiguous. And the deletion statement (especially the part about "he will setup a page" seems to reflect a fundamental misunderstanding of what Wikipedia is and how it works — it is not a hosting site for you to write about yourself, nor should the subject of an article have direct control over it. As for the article being a "violation": obviously if the subject sees and can articulate specific problems with it then those should be cleaned up, but it looks unobjectionable to me. —David Eppstein (talk) 05:50, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep: Is notable a holder of a named chair at a major North American university. (Also per WP:PROF see above)- Ret.Prof (talk) 13:46, 22 December 2015 (UTC)


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