Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Abbasalutely


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   Keep, nom withdrawn. TravellingCarithe Busy Bee 04:36, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Abbasalutely

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Procedural afd - I've just restored this article which was prodded and deleted some months ago, but I question the reasons given for the prod which stated "Fails WP:MUSIC#Albums. Non-notable tribute with no potential to expand and has no in-depth sources to establish notability." Given that the album is a compilation, and that many of the tracks on it were recorded by artists who are considered notable enough for their own articles (Martin Phillipps, Shayne Carter, Tall Dwarfs, Headless Chickens, etc.), on a label that is also noteworthy (Flying Nun Records), I feel that the notability criteria have been met. There are also several in-depth resources, though many of them are paper-only rather than web-based (I shall try to hunt some down). Even so, Abbasalutely -wikipedia yields some 2000 ghits. Keep. Grutness...wha?  09:45, 14 June 2008 (UTC) withdrawn - see below. Grutness...wha?  01:18, 22 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of New Zealand-related deletion discussions.   —Grutness...wha?  09:48, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete, article fails to establish notability as per WP:MUSIC.   Esradekan Gibb    "Talk" 12:04, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * What part of WP:MUSIC does it fail? I can't see any parts of that notability standard not met by this album. Grutness...wha?  00:59, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, TravellingCarithe Busy Bee 02:02, 21 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Speedy Close without prejudice Nominator effectively withdrew the AfD nomination the moment it was posted. I know there's another Delete nod, but this thing just seems weirdly out of process. Townlake (talk) 02:52, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment nothing wrong with procedural nominations and they're not reason for a speedy close. TravellingCarithe Busy Bee 03:06, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment As a general rule, you're right. But the nomination freely admits the article needs better sourcing, the 2000 GHITS reference is problematic (I skimmed through first 200 or so, didn't see any obviously RS), and whether WP:MUSIC is met is a debatable question that requires encouragement of input from people familiar with resources for the NZ punk scene - especially if nom's right that those resources aren't easily web accessible.  I'm absolutely positive the nominator is acting in good faith here, but this AfD is premature. Townlake (talk) 03:44, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * anyway, as it was already deleted, shouldn't a person discuss it at WP:DRV rather than here, preferably before restoring? Sticky Parkin 13:28, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * CommentWhile it doesn't appear to be policy, expired PRODs are normally restored without controversy at WP:DRV. User:Grutness is an admin so that's not really out of process. No comment on actual notability -- I find music ones to be TravellingCarithe Busy Bee 14:12, 21 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Withdraw - it appears the WP:PROD rules have been amended slightly since I last restored a prodded article. They now read "If a page was deleted under Proposed deletion, then it should be immediately undeleted by request. However, it may immediately be brought to WP:AFD." At one time I'm fairly sure that "may" read "must". The first sentence implicity suggests that a DRV is unnecessary, but the second sentence also makes it clear that an automatic listing at AFD is no longer required - I only listed this here in the (apparently incorrect) understanding that it was necessary. As such, I withdraw the nom. Grutness...wha?  23:09, 21 June 2008 (UTC)


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