Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Abbey Centre


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. causa sui (talk) 20:44, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Abbey Centre

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no indication of WP:notability. No independent WP:reliable sources. Just a list of shops. noq (talk) 09:32, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
 * There is a reference to the Abbey Centre website in which the sources are from. User:EastBelfastBoy 14:17, 3 July 2011
 * Plenty of good, reliable stuff on this page now, I think it shouldn't be deleted. User:EastBelfastBoy 15:24, 3 July 2011
 * Comment Its a list of store names with an unsourced claim to being one of the biggest shopping centres in Northern Ireland added since the nomination. The only independent reference is a directory listing. So there is still no notability established and no independent WP:reliable sources. noq (talk) 15:28, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

I think wiki should "Keep" this page EastBelfastBoy (talk) 16:40, 3 July 2011 (UTC)EastBelfastBoyEastBelfastBoy (talk) 16:40, 3 July 2011 (UTC) 17:33, 3 July 2011 I live in Northern Ireland and I know that it is one of the biggest, you could walk up to anyone in Northern Ireland and say, Is Abbey Centre one of the biggest shopping centres and they would say yes. You don't even live in Northern Ireland, I do. I think unless you know about the place then you shouldn't nominate for deletion. I have seen your talk page and many people are wondering why you have put their Pages up for nomination. EastBelfastBoy 17:40, 3 July 2011
 * Comment People who create non notable articles often complain without reading the links provided which explain WHY they have been nominated. Wikipedia requires WP:reliable sources to WP:verify the claims. They need to be WP:notable - they cannot just rely on claims without sources. noq (talk) 17:03, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Keep. This article is new and hasn't had much time to develop which i feel is unfair. I think with a little more time this could be a great wiki article. Keep Abbey Centre Page. EastBelfastBoy (talk) 20:44, 3 July 2011 (UTC)EastBelfastBoy
 * Comment As stated before, HOW is it notsble? Just adding more bits from the centres own website will not establish that. Time to develop is OK if it can show notability - that is a minimum requirement - without that it is eligible for deletion. It only just avoided a nomination for speedy deletion. noq (talk) 23:51, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Shopping malls-related deletion discussions.  —• Gene93k (talk) 00:40, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Northern Ireland-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 00:40, 4 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Merge. I found this reference which does back up the claim that this shopping centre is one of the largest in Northern Ireland, but not much else that can contribute to a Wikipedia article. A mention in either Economy of Belfast or Newtownabbey seems the best place. Chris Neville-Smith (talk) 09:47, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete and maybe add a mention elsewhere, as suggested above. No claim, or any indication, of notability. Cheers, LindsayHello 19:27, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - fails WP:GNG. Simply nothing notable about it and nothing notable has happened there. In passing, I would note that the phrase "All of our retail units ..." gives the game away about the source of some contributions. Bridgeplayer (talk) 15:34, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
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