Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Abbey gates primary school


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   redirect to Ravenshead.  MBisanz  talk 04:18, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Abbey gates primary school

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My speedy has been declined by an admin, who also removed some of the more of the more spammy content. But what we're left with is so meagre, lacking in basic context let alone notability, I believe it merits deletion. I generally stay away from school articles, as it seems like just about all of them are notable. But this one? Shawn in Montreal (talk) 04:45, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions.  —Shawn in Montreal (talk) 04:49, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Redirect - To whatever district (or equivalent thereof) this belongs to, as is the norm in these cases. § FreeRangeFrog 04:52, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge/redirect to Ravenshead. Cunard (talk) 05:02, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge/redirect to Ravenshead. The statement "The Foundation Unit is recognised as a centre of excellence" is sourceable against the 2006 Ofsted report and should be included in the merge. TerriersFan (talk) 20:16, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep although rename to Abbey Gates Primary School to match peer article for Ravenshead C of E Primary School linked to from Ravenshead. Alternative ought to be Merge & Redirect both articles into parent article. DiverScout (talk) 12:58, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment I think that I have managed to get this to stub status through a few edits and references. Notability, in common with other school articles, may now have been proven?  I lean more strongly towards Keep now. DiverScout (talk) 14:20, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment - I have just found that this school has been involved in national CPD provision (through Teacher's TV) relating to changes in sex education. It appears that this school may have a stronger case than many for notability. DiverScout (talk) 23:29, 5 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Merge/redirect to Ravenshead. -- Lucas20 (talk) 01:21, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge/redirect per above and the established consensus on school articles. Stifle (talk) 18:31, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Query - could you please direct me to the indicated Wikipedia policy? Cheers. DiverScout (talk) 11:52, 7 March 2009 (UTC)


 * There may be a better one but ... Notability (high schools) explains why high schools are almost always fine while Notability (high schools) delves into what garners notability. Since this school is below the high school level you need to show it meets our general notability guideline which would override those first two if there were so many independent reliable sources conferring notability. Like multiple newspaper articles about school projects and programs, special events, etc. high schools almost always have this whereas schools below that level usually do not. -- Banj e  b oi   18:20, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 * WP:SCHOOL - Indicators of probable notability.  Radiopathy (talk) 18:35, 7 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Redirect until notability established. -- Banj e  b oi   18:20, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Redirect until notability established. Radiopathy (talk) 18:35, 7 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Query 2 - Thanks for that essay link. Second query is that, as deletion through AfD seems, if I've read it right, to ban the content of the article being relocated elsewhere, would it not make more sense for this not to have been placed for AfD, but tagged for a merge of the content in through normal process (as seems to be the general consensus)?  May I request that AfD be aborted and the page tagged for a speedy merge instead?  At this time it would also make sense to merge tag the second school in the town (Ravenshead C of E Primary School), with each becoming a dedicated subsection under the schools heading?  Abbey Gates having had national exposure on TV could be used to argue notability - but I feel that merging the three articles would make one good article out of the three. DiverScout (talk) 18:40, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 * The AfD, at this point, needs to play out. You can be bold however and merge the most salient bits from here into the main village article without delay and simply repost a note on this page that salvagable content merged already. -- Banj e  b oi   19:06, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Done encyclopedic content recovered as above. Will revert if article survives. DiverScout (talk) 22:02, 7 March 2009 (UTC)


 * merge as suggested above, as usual. DGG (talk) 17:43, 8 March 2009 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.